How EQ PvP really was - No bullshit guide

[ScaryBadAssholes]

Originally Posted by Cast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Read a few more sentences- wait you played on SZ? and think you can make a post like this? lol gtfo you fucking scrub. Every player from '99 rz trumps your stupid fucking post and we disallow you from posting or living from here on out. Kill yourself.

It's parliament frogadelic.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by tmoneynegro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard: I don't remember any of their spells landing on me classic through Velious. There weren't many bards on EQ live in general though. One thing they can do is dispel all your buffs, use a tash procing weapon, then use occlusion of sound unresistable MR/FR/CR debuff which would be something like 60-70 MR debuff if the server uses Sullon Zek 50% debuff bonus. With that much MR debuffed, you can probably land snare and dot on even well geared melees. If you combine that with a Malo from a shaman or mage, someone would be really screwed. So for group PvP, besides just being a speed bot, they have some annoying tricks. If you're solo, you probably won't kill anyone as a bard and mostly just wander around annoying people, nobody will kill you either though probably.

Good god was it hard to get my orb of tishan to proc in pvp. I think I managed it maybe once, though after playing with it for a while I stopped trying. In 1v1 pvp the loss of melee dps was not at all worth the chance to proc. OoS, though, was of course very useful.

You clearly never played a good bard, they are easily one of the better pvp classes and I think you'll see that on Red99, if the bard population on Blue99 is any indication. The dots would land fairly easily, though they were so slow. 1v1 their main way to do damage is melee, and it works particularly well against casters. My strat against robes and priests was pretty simple.. debuff, debuff, debuff with some Brusco's thrown in during melee, then chain cast Brusco's (chance to interrupt spells) until they die or at best get a gate off. While keeping selo's on when needed.

Against melee classes, if you really wanted to you could run around with selo's and keep them doted, but I always found it to be so boring. Hehe, my favorite 1v1 pvp match was against a rogue. I was a big fan of jousting. I'd always throw my epic into mainhand (woo 16 damage! hardcore!) and go to town. Selo's is a HUGE advantage when jousting, often times I could get hits in and be gone before the enemy could get back at me. And all the while I'd be twisting regen, a dot or two, and melee stuffs. I fucked that rogue up something fierce.

Playing a bard in pvp (and pve, really) requires lots of quickly swapping weapons for instruments and back, while keeping your attention on what's really going on. Takes a few levels of practice, but once you've got it you've got it. Bards are of course amazing in group pvp as well. Selo's, resists and oos alone make you powerful hehe.

Oh and one of the bard ancient songs at 60 was an unresistable (on players) mez :O

[Deli]

ITT: Redtard convention.

These testosterone fueled circle jerk threads are the single most annoying thing on these boards. Competition is fun and necessary on a red server, I get that much. What I don't understand is why the "trash talking" has to be so godamn lame.

The good news is the majority of the people that will play on the server aren't slinging their toilet humor at each other.

@ the u mad? question this will undoubtedly receive...

Yes, because if an outsider comes over here to check out the Red99 culture and peruse the forum they will see a clique of panzy asses spitting venom because they live under the creepy belief that they are at the top of their pathetic, homemade caste system.

Diaf.

[tmoneynegro]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You clearly never played a good bard, they are easily one of the better pvp classes and I think you'll see that on Red99

Rofl? You're obviously fighting in the light weight realm of PvP if you think that.

On EQ live, the dots didn't land very well/at all and even if they did, iksar/troll regen + fungi tunic probably nullifies the entire thing.

You could basically just laugh at bards until they got resist mods on dots that also triggered resist debuffs in later expansions.

I'm talking about endgame PvP here, not Jerry Springer backyard wrestling. If the resists are like EQ live, bards are a joke. If they modify resists, bards will probably become overpowered due to all the utility and effects their spells provide while being able to run fast and have huge resists.

[Terpuntine]

<3 you cast, keep up the fine work my friend.

[Bockscar]

Uh... both chant dots are classic, do like 30 base damage (multiplied by instrument) and debuff resists. Two chants for like 50ish damage/tick each? That's considerable damage when you can do nothing about it. You can absolutely run around chanting people to death while they have no way to touch you. Assuming you're outdoors (why discuss indoors PvP for a bard?) you can simply run at maximum range, pop into range for three seconds to apply a dot, and pop back out. It's so easy with selos. Chants have the same range as spells and there's no way someone will get off a 6+ second nuke or dot off when you can move like 100ft per second and spells have a range of 200ft. Bards are so completely safe outdoors that the best their opponent can hope for is to gate away. Resist songs make them nearly impossible to cast on, and if you do land a root, they'll just dispel it right away. If you somehow hurt them, they'll run off and regen or click an invigorate bp for a minute and come back at full hp. Chants get resisted a lot, but since you can keep trying every three seconds at no cost, they will land and they come with a resist debuff. If you're a caster and your resists are kinda low, the bard could even stand there and melee you while just singing mez and resist songs.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by tmoneynegro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rofl? You're obviously fighting in the light weight realm of PvP if you think that.

On EQ live, the dots didn't land very well/at all and even if they did, iksar/troll regen + fungi tunic probably nullifies the entire thing.

You could basically just laugh at bards until they got resist mods on dots that also triggered resist debuffs in later expansions.

I'm talking about endgame PvP here, not Jerry Springer backyard wrestling. If the resists are like EQ live, bards are a joke. If they modify resists, bards will probably become overpowered due to all the utility and effects their spells provide while being able to run fast and have huge resists.

I never laughed at bards. As soon as I did, I would get eaten by his/her train of mobs.

[Trevek]

Thanks for the post tmoneynegro. I really hope there are more people like you on this server and less like Cast, or it will be a freakin flop.

[mimixownzall]

His only problem is he greatly exaggerates the effectiveness of resists outside of magic resists. You should still be able to land spells consistently high even with 100 MR/CR etc.

[Palemoon]

Originally Posted by Trevek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the post tmoneynegro. I really hope there are more people like you on this server and less like Cast, or it will be a freakin flop.

I agree 100 percent.