For those thinking about making a Bard to aoe kite

[SyanideGas]

I gave in and made a bard today LF Lambent gearzez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]..Im in for trouble now.

[citizen1080]

Some of my best memories were swarming all the cats on the temple of frozen shadow island in iceclad. Good times

[Tarathiel]

dont you think its kinda of rude to run around and gather up all the mobs in a zone where groups are trying to xp? why not do this out in the karana's or on kunark? oasis just seems like a bad spot to practice this

[citizen1080]

There are groups everywhere. You do this in oasis..they bitch...you do it at KC...they bitch...you do it in OT...they bitch...you do it in TD...they bitch. It's pretty easy to leave enough mobs for a group to keep busy with no matter where you are however...so just learn to play nice and most people wont mind too much.

Even while kiting 100+ mobs around in OT there are still plenty for a couple groups to kill.

[Kevlar]

Not when there are two or three douchebags doing it.

And when the bard screws up and bites it guess where those 100 mobs are going. Right back to kill the exp group he just kited through.

I thought training was bannable? But running an hour long train around in circles not caring what anyone else in zone is doing isn't. I've been trained by these idiots in NK, FM giant fort, and almost every day in OT. Thank goodness they can't pull this bullshit in traks teeth where I can finally get some mobs without getting stomped on by a dead or zoned bard.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Kevlar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not when there are two or three douchebags doing it.

And when the bard screws up and bites it guess where those 100 mobs are going. Right back to kill the exp group he just kited through.

I thought training was bannable? But running an hour long train around in circles not caring what anyone else in zone is doing isn't. I've been trained by these idiots in NK, FM giant fort, and almost every day in OT. Thank goodness they can't pull this bullshit in traks teeth where I can finally get some mobs without getting stomped on by a dead or zoned bard.

By this logic druids and wizards are no longer allowed to quad kite because if they die their 4 mobs "might" run over where you happen to be sitting. Sounds a little weak to me.

[Kevlar]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By this logic druids and wizards are no longer allowed to quad kite because if they die their 4 mobs "might" run over where you happen to be sitting. Sounds a little weak to me.

Pitiful comparison considering druid/wiz mobs are snared, and druids and wizzies don't attempt to pull the entire zone, even mobs right out from under the noses of other groups and solo characters.

Think about it, the average group is probably killing a monster every 15 seconds or so. The average quadder maybe every 30 seconds to a minute. This easily beats mob respawn so even with constant pulls their impact on the other players in a zone is minimal.

Asshole bard wants to kite 100 mobs because his aoe dots are so pathetic it would take him an hour to kill 1 mob with them. Might as well kill all the mobs to make it worthwhile.

So Mr. Asshole takes 100 mobs in a huge unwieldly train that will kill anything it touches, including him, instantly.

Now it is going to still take him an hour to kill these 100 mobs, so assuming a spawn time of 3 minutes, he is taking 2000 possible monster spawns away from other players. The average six man group is taking maybe 10 spawns. Because the mobs actually have time to, and do respawn.

Add to this the fact that Mr asshole is only milliseconds away, a single lag spike, from instant death. And so is everyone he trained past.

[hotstud]

Originally Posted by Kevlar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pitiful comparison considering druid/wiz mobs are snared, and druids and wizzies don't attempt to pull the entire zone, even mobs right out from under the noses of other groups and solo characters.

Think about it, the average group is probably killing a monster every 15 seconds or so. The average quadder maybe every 30 seconds to a minute. This easily beats mob respawn so even with constant pulls their impact on the other players in a zone is minimal.

Asshole bard wants to kite 100 mobs because his aoe dots are so pathetic it would take him an hour to kill 1 mob with them. Might as well kill all the mobs to make it worthwhile.

So Mr. Asshole takes 100 mobs in a huge unwieldly train that will kill anything it touches, including him, instantly.

Now it is going to still take him an hour to kill these 100 mobs, so assuming a spawn time of 3 minutes, he is taking 2000 possible monster spawns away from other players. The average six man group is taking maybe 10 spawns. Because the mobs actually have time to, and do respawn.

Add to this the fact that Mr asshole is only milliseconds away, a single lag spike, from instant death. And so is everyone he trained past.

Hey, crybaby.. if a mob isn't engaged it's open for killing. It takes me 20 minutes to pull every mob in OT that I want and kite them down. Might want to check your numbers. I also haven't died in 3 levels or several hours of kiting. You really just have no idea what you're talking about...

You know what I hear? "I WISH I COULD KITE LIKE A BARD, QQ"

People like you are why MMOs suck these days. No room for anyone to do anything that takes skill because some little crybaby is going to cry on some forums about it because they aren't good enough to do it themselves.

[Kevlar]

Originally Posted by hotstud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey, crybaby.. if a mob isn't engaged it's open for killing. It takes me 20 minutes to pull every mob in OT that I want and kite them down. Might want to check your numbers. I also haven't died in 3 levels or several hours of kiting. You really just have no idea what you're talking about...

You know what I hear? "I WISH I COULD KITE LIKE A BARD, QQ"

People like you are why MMOs suck these days. No room for anyone to do anything that takes skill because some little crybaby is going to cry on some forums about it because they aren't good enough to do it themselves.

Oh brother, if you think kiting some L30 something mobs makes you "leet" you have a lot to learn.

Oh and from your post about intentionally training someone I think we have identified one of the "asshole" bards.

Originally Posted by hotstud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would also like to apologize to Zial the Druid. I accidentally aggroed a mob he had snared (thought it was a roamer) which of course transferred his aggro to all my mobs. I ran his snared mob to guards and started kiting. About halfway through suddenly the mobs took off running so I ran up ahead and found Zial was low on health from a fight. Started shouting, "RUN BITCH RUN" but he was AFK and got owned. Sorry Zial.. P.S. Please post the screen shot your guild mate took of me "training mobs", I would like it for my personal collection.
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[Waffen]

Originally Posted by Kevlar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The average quadder maybe every 30 seconds to a minute.

30 seconds to a minute to kill mobs in a quad? pass me them eq roids son!