Reaction to Women abusing Men

[Klendathu]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fucking christ, what movie is this, hilarious :P

Jackie Brown

[Slathar]

As a white male, I feel that it is time we fight this endless oppression and do something about it. For too long our rights have been eroded. Just yesterday I was approached by a Chinaman who accosted me with his foreign devil-speak. I was so outraged I called the police and had the vagrant jailed for his uppity behavior. These are dark times we're living in, folks.

[casdegere]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0

Sean Connery, the last true man alive.

It's absolutely right o_O

Really? Pulling out the goon hand is how to keep your chick inline? It doesn't take a man to hit a woman dude.

[Lazortag]

Just to clarify something - most feminists believe that all gender roles are bad, not just the ones that directly suppress women. For instance, if it's more socially accepted for a woman to slap a man, your average feminist would be categorically opposed to that, even if it seems to benefit women. Feminists primarily focus on the plight of women only because they're more often disadvantaged by gender roles, but the fact that some gender roles work in their favor isn't evidence that feminism is backward or stupid.

I'm not sure I agree with everything Deathgirl said but she's right that there's some methodological problems with the video, in that the force being used by the woman is clearly less than that being used by the man, so you can't adequately compare people's reactions

[Pico]

as a eunuch this disturbs me

[Archival]

Maybe you don't know but...
In Spain, several weeks ago, a women who stabbed her husband was jailed for 6 months, the same husband, i self defense hurted the woman, so it was abuse, 9 months of jail...
WTF?
Well I've read before that you are less powerful so you don't need any help, so, why do you demand then to be paid equally if you do any strengh related job?
You are not as effective as a man so you would be pay less, that doesnt sound too weird right?

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Archival [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In Spain, several weeks ago...

I was basically refering to American. In Afghanistan women can't take off their burkas (sp) in public, and can't drive cars. Women (until recently) haven't been able to get work either.

Many countries have many odd laws (the US included)

http://informationcentral0.tripod.com/id7.html

This is just my opinion but all we can do is try to better ourselves and try to make the world better where we can. It's really no use worrying about what other people do or other countries do because you can't control them.

[azeth]

naw, y'all wrong.

[deathgirl]

Originally Posted by Anger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should explain this to all women so they're not as butthurt when they try to play football or fight on the front lines in the armed forces.

I hate the military, but I was butthurt back when I was really young/homeless/suicidal and inquired about being a sniperman in the australian army, and for some gd reason there's no such thing as a sniperwoman. It's not like a sniper needs brute strength or are on the front lines? I suppose our reaction time is generally lower... anyway, super glad I didn't join up just for a roof now o_o

[Anger]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to clarify something - most feminists believe that all gender roles are bad, not just the ones that directly suppress women. For instance, if it's more socially accepted for a woman to slap a man, your average feminist would be categorically opposed to that, even if it seems to benefit women. Feminists primarily focus on the plight of women only because they're more often disadvantaged by gender roles, but the fact that some gender roles work in their favor isn't evidence that feminism is backward or stupid.

I'm not sure I agree with everything Deathgirl said but she's right that there's some methodological problems with the video, in that the force being used by the woman is clearly less than that being used by the man, so you can't adequately compare people's reactions

I know where you're going with this, and I don't necessarily disagree with it.

Say I'm at a bar and a woman slaps me in the face. That shit hurts. I don't care if you're Mr. Universe, getting slapped in the face stings no matter how frail and weak the woman is or how strong you are. My first reaction is to push her away from me, remove the problem from my vicinity. She stumbles backward, trips, and she thumps her head on the ground.

Now all the sudden, I'm viewed as the monster. Even though she did more direct physical damage to me, and I was simply trying to remove her to avoid further conflict (let alone the fact that when people see a woman slap a man, they automatically assume he deserved it for some reason). The focus automatically shifts to me, because I'm the man and "OMG you pushed her and made her fall! What if she has a concussion??". Cause and effect goes right out the window.

If I took anything but a passive role in this situation people would assume I was the aggressor. It doesn't matter that she is the one hitting me. If I yell, people assume she is defending herself against me. If I restrain her, people think she is fighting to get away. Anything but just taking it will land me in an assumed position of guilt from most people. And that. Is. Wrong.

Or, like I told Deathgirl earlier. What happens if I exert the same force on a woman that she's exerting on me? What if I level the playing field? What happens if I just hit the bitch softer than she's hitting me? It wouldn't matter.

This is a horrible double standard that people just seem to look the other way about because "that's just the way it is".