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Old 08-29-2011, 03:23 PM
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:24 PM
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:24 PM
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whatever, anti-semite
thank god iam italian then, oh wait, we had mussolini!
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:30 PM
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LOL guess it would hurt your feeling if Jesus was a dark man .
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:35 PM
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"You're holding a gun to God's head. I can't even think of a metaphor better than this."
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haha fits perfectly to the topic

the most documented massacre of innocents in all of history has been done from the church and in the name of the church
Actually, The largest massacres in terms of numbers by any single entity was Maoist China, with Stalin as the runner up...and they did it to more people more quickly and more brutally than all the centuries of church atrocities combined.

But we know they were strict adherents to the doctrines of the Christian church, right?
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Actually, The largest massacres in terms of numbers by any single entity was Maoist China, with Stalin as the runner up...and they did it to more people more quickly and more brutally than all the centuries of church atrocities combined.

But we know they were strict adherents to the doctrines of the Christian church, right?
I love using this when some militant atheist moron spews inaccuracies as fact.
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:45 PM
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I love using this when some militant atheist moron spews inaccuracies as fact.
and u sir are still blindly following the largest mafia of all history
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:48 PM
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I'm not Catholic, or religious for that matter.

But, nice try...

Since I don't subscribe to your idiocy I MUST be religious, right?
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:50 PM
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I love using this when some militant atheist moron spews inaccuracies as fact.
Yeah, it's kind of a pop atheist thing to be reactionary against the church or religion without recognizing the central idea that validated the atrocities - the exaltation of the collective against the individual.

The means is irrelevant - what's always present is the idea that the individual is less valuable than either *the* collective or a specific collective. I.e. that people are only valuable as they're part of a desired grouping as opposed to intrinsically valuable by virtue of being an individual human being, and violent atrocities against individuals are justifiable if it accomplishes some collective purpose.

You can justify that by religion, atheism, politics, whatever...So the means is irrelevant to the act itself.

I do support the idea that science and atheism are far more powerful in terms of justification to trample individuals to support a privileged group than religion ever could be because they strip out the window dressing of unconditional love that some religions accept - Science/Atheism kind of lacks this cognitive dissonance.
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