Loot gathered, guildies cheating

[Badmartigan]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regardless.

Fucking scumbags all got off WAY too easy. Disgusting.

true... those guilty of seq use in the past aside from a few exceptions have been banned...

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Which brings up something else badmartigan. Do you now retroactively unban those?

[vinx]

Originally Posted by WizardEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not the GL of a high-end guild..yet.. but this I agree with. I am considering kicking everyone who cheated in my guild, including 2 officers and all their alts. Am I being too harsh? I'm torn. Is the punishment enough? I don't feel it is. What are you doing being raid gear? I'd like advice from a real leader.

Xaxian of Prodigy

LOL
if you have ANY rules at all for your guild .. and follow them
you wouldnt be asking should you kick em or not

if not, then you are taking the same stand as the uber raid guilds who use them for tracking/pulling etc
if you do kick, then L2 compete in a lopsided contest

I can confidently say the times i was in leadership, everyone knew the guild charters stance on 3rd party programs so that either:
A) they never personally mentioned uses to me
B) they wouldnt use 3rd party programs in my presence (or presence of officers)
And i never once asked any members if they "had" or "used" 3rd party programs so i or the guild could utilize their abilities.

bout the only thing we DID use was fraps.
being the underdogs in lopsided contention.. but that was fine with me, seems more challenging
how fuckin hard is this game honestly??

[purist]

Originally Posted by WizardEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not the GL of a high-end guild..yet.. but this I agree with. I am considering kicking everyone who cheated in my guild, including 2 officers and all their alts. Am I being too harsh? I'm torn. Is the punishment enough? I don't feel it is. What are you doing being raid gear? I'd like advice from a real leader.

Xaxian of Prodigy

Post their names on here.

[TR Spokesman]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regardless.

Fucking scumbags all got off WAY too easy. Disgusting.

holy shit i agree with harrison.

edit: Without them being completely banned, they should have all gear/items removed from their accounts. I am certain that the items on those accounts alone are worth 3-5x as much as the plat that was removed. If Perun was suspended then it would be more like 6-7x as much. (seriously, idk if you can put a price on one of the/if not the most OP item in the game)

[Nivar Quartz]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you assuming that any one guild got off without a cheater?

What you suggest boils down to all god/dragon loot being wiped off the server, because I can almost guarantee that there was at least one person in each guild that has this loot that was caught cheating.

I'm not assuming anything, was just my opinion. The discussion in newer threads throughout server chat and RnF have talked about just taking the droppable items from these select characters. I like this suggestion also as to not phase non-cheaters gameplay.

It should be obvious to all involved, cheating or not, the punishment has been layed down, and I trust was discussed at length before it got leaked with added files in the previous path.

Things you can bet on though, were high end loots and plat being transfered from those characters that saw this might happen soon, but its just too much time and effort really to drop on a skeleton staff thats grinding during there FREE time for people that dedicated to cheating a 12 yr old EMU.