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Old 03-22-2010, 10:06 AM
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However much I disagree with him, the post is on topic. It is semi-classic, to be near sighted, look at bards, we've been told we won't be able to swarm kite due to its "unfairness" but we get the other "fair" perks of being a bard. I don't mean to nitpick, I love P99 and have devoted much time and money to it. I am just pointing out that he is right- the Devs have done a great job but seem to favor what seems fair over what is classic. This again, is highly opinionated, but true.

Not meaning to oversight things such as fixing raid rotation, continuous quest fixes and a large amount of output by the devs who make zero money for their work- But I completely agree with things like /ooc and /auc being serverwide. It is very easy to say these things are necessary but after a while start to add up and ruin my life.

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The issue with bards again is a client/server interaction issue. I'm all for quad/swarm kiting. Herein lies the issue: The server/client interaction isn't fast enough to keep track and maintain a classic hit box for mobs, this is why they run so fast. Now, we could increase the area of the bard AE damages but you would drift into the realm of overpowered. They were relatively small AE areas (I was rather disillusioned on live due to this and quickly gave up my bard twink). If the hit box code can be refined then we can slow down mobs and look at bard swarm kiting. It's not that it can't be done, it's just that it hasn't been done yet.
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:35 AM
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And the instrument modifiers don't work on those songs-

You have a bucket for sale by chance?
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:20 PM
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Jete, bards aren't the only ones. Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently monks in P99 are subject to the Luclin era mitigation and avoidance nerfs. Everyone knows that monks have a weight limit that we must maintain to avoid suffering an AC penalty. What most people don't know is the reasoning behind that weight limit was because monks were given a higher avoidance and mitigation that was on par with chain or plate (I can't remember) classes. In Luclin, a number of notable players started to complain about monks being over-powered (In all honesty, we were), a thus our mitigation was nerfed (yet our weight restrictions remained /boggle).

Personally, I don't think monks are all that bad on this server, and I feel I compliment any group I join fairly well. I'm not complaining. I'm just providing an example of how bards are not the only class that is weaker or more restricted than it was in classic.

Honestly, I'd take the way aggro works on this server over increased avoidance / mitigation any day. It's definitely not classic, but you won't hear any complaints out of me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit : Also, Snifs post was the best post in this thread.
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:45 AM
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we've been told we won't be able to swarm kite
You can swarm kite.


You can not AoE kite, however.
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:55 AM
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You can swarm kite.


You can not AoE kite, however.
Its good thing we have you around! Problem fixed! Yaaaay!
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:20 AM
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Here, here Aeolwind - BRILLIANT reponse. This thread should end at his response - it's exactly what is needed to be heard. Thank you for the hard work!

p.s. MutualOfOhama - help us make it a more classic and a better server by reporting these problems in the Bugs area. You will NOT find a better EQ Classic Server out there... go ahead, I challenge you to find one (that is currently running, not in development).
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:02 PM
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This thread should end at his response..
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1.the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:08 PM
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i·ro·ny

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1.the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
hmm... so whats it called when you post a rebuttal in the wrong thread? =p
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:30 PM
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hmm... so whats it called when you post a rebuttal in the wrong thread? =p
Confusing :-\
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:33 PM
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hmm... so whats it called when you post a rebuttal in the wrong thread? =p
Am I missing something? :P
Are you talking to me? :P
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