I don't believe in space time.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody can explain why it happens.

The concept is both absurd, and unexplainable.

Everyone believes a physics bug in the video game we call the 'universe', where it cant calculate time when things are moving too fast: Just makes sense.

So therefore, I believe that proves it's a physics bug, not physics.

It's not real. It's a glitch. It's not a feature.

Well a bug/glitch would make it real so I'm assuming you meant something different than that? It would make it unintended but existent. So what did you actually mean?

[BradZax]

If it's real, nothing else is real, is why I don't believe it's real.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it's real, nothing else is real, is why I don't believe it's real.

What would make it real to you?

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What would make it real to you?

if it made sense, or if someone came up with an explanation that made sense: the simulation breaks down at great speeds.

So soon they will release a new form of travel:

/warp

Where have I used THAT command before [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They'll say it's bending space time. But it's just a patch.

Or they'll reset the server.

[BradZax]

It's kind of a commentary on how humans will create reasons for things to exist, even if they are not intended to exist.

Like if a shadow was pointing the wrong way.

We'd have a reason.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's kind of a commentary on how humans will create reasons for things to exist, even if they are not intended to exist.

Like if a shadow was pointing the wrong way.

We'd have a reason.

Well the reason is that proximity to gravitational forces affects how time flows. Like you can just go buy two atomic clocks, put one at the base of a mountain, climb the mountain, hang out for awhile, come back down and observe the difference.

So you can say that isn't time dilation or its not gravity or whatever, you do you, but its an observable thing that happens. And our best reasoning for why it happens is gravity and speed. So much so that we can predict those differences and those predictions are accurate. I mean that's how your GPS works.

It's been exhaustively tested and observed.

And let's be super duper clear--let's say hypothetically you're correct and its not due to time dilation, that part isn't the part that matters. The part that matters is that it happens and allows us to provide a predictable model for how the world works that we can do useful things with, like having GPS satellites that can tell you where you are and where you're going.

[magnetaress]

The substrate demonstrates frame dragging in its output.

Get hecked.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well the reason is that proximity to gravitational forces affects how time flows.

Im going to explain how birds fly the same way:

Well the reason is they have an ability to fly.

This is my issue with time dilation.

It's explained in a hand wavey way to validate the idea that the simulation is not a simulation. To really unpack it, the fabric of reality starts ripping apart.

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And let's be super duper clear--let's say hypothetically you're correct and its not due to time dilation, that part isn't the part that matters. The part that matters is that it happens and allows us to provide a predictable model for how the world works that we can do useful things with, like having GPS satellites that can tell you where you are and where you're going.

Every speed runner needs a provable, predictable way, to exploit that games physics too.

Notice: time only changes for the thing going fast.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Notice: time only changes for the thing going fast.

That's not quite the conclusion of it so you're already off base.

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im going to explain how birds fly the same way:

Well the reason is they have an ability to fly.

I'll be honest, I think one of the most exhausting things going around lately is people who don't know about shit loudly proclaiming things about things they don't understand, while demanding everyone around them know everything to beyond a PhD level to explain it to them.

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every speed runner needs a provable, predictable way, to exploit that games physics too.

This doesn't align with what you've been saying. It is provable and predictable.

I think what you meant here, because I don't think you actually know that much about speed running, is that the speed runner needs to know how something works, when in reality that isn't the case at all. Most speed runners don't actually know how what they're doing works, they do it because it's predictable and works, which is also why we use theories like gravity and relativity. And its ok if you don't understand how spacetime works, the practical part is really the only important part. You'll never be the size of an atomic particle and you'll never travel near the speed of light.

To my understanding, we think it happens based on gravity and speed because when we take things and shoot them at very high speeds we observe that they experienced time differently. And when we put things closer to a large source of gravity and further away they experience time differently. And then we come up with equations that model that behavior. And then we tested whether those equations held up by trying other things in different ways with an expected outcome and the actual matched the expected.

And that's it. This isn't that complicated. Wrapping your head around space time is complicated, I can get behind that, shit sounds like magic. But the science is pretty simple: we tried things a bunch of times and it keeps happening the same way and so far no one can find a thing that doesn't align with this.

Except even with this, we have, apparently the math breaks down in quantum physics where things are really tiny. Isn't that cool?

That's the beauty of science, there are no absolute truths, it's just the best we can do.

[OriginalContentGuy]

I don't believe in language, Brad. Every time you post is evidence.