World of Warcraft really is an EverQuest copy/pasta.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn i just saw this youtube short and I looked up the game and well ill be damned Sonic the Hedge Hog looks to be a rip off of a unlicensed NES game Big Nose Freaks Out.

How on earth did a japanese sega developer play this obscure unlicensed American game nobody's ever heard of.

Total coincidence? What about the coincidence that I see this while this thread pops up! *twilight zone noises

Wow even his rocks that you collect explode to 0 when you get hit.

Quick google, nobody has called this out before. Crazy.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*slaps you silly with a Red herring*

DIKU group thus no longer finds any reason what-so-ever to believe any of the rumors that EverQuest should be based on DikuMUD.

Do you have any understanding of context whatsoever? The context there (as in the Wikipedia snippet I quoted) was about an accusation of copying code. EQ didn't copy code: the EQ people say they didn't, the DikuMUD people agree they didn't.

But again ... "derived from" can mean so many other things, in so many other different contexts besides literal source code copying.

[shovelquest]

Oh shit lol this game came out in 1992 and sonic came out in 91 so they must have copied it haha that makes a lot more sense.

I was like this game would have blown my ass open in 1986.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you have any understanding of context whatsoever? The context there (as in the Wikipedia snippet I quoted) was about an accusation of copying code. EQ didn't copy code: the EQ people say they didn't, the DikuMUD people agree they didn't.

But again ... "derived from" can mean so many other things, in so many other different contexts besides literal source code copying.

please don't insist on your distraction. Poor form, Pan.

[shovelquest]

Im glad you guys completely ignored me and I was able to still complete my conversation.

[vales]

the eq ip is very weak, they copied dungeons and dragons and lotr too heavily

not only are there hobbits and drow running around, and 1:1 rips like beholders/"beholder's maze", but their unique stuff is generic and usually limited to just what they named a character or location

wow was successful because the people making it were very talented and made the foundation of the game run/feel better than even any mmo that is out today. they copied almost nothing from EQ, other than generic mmo aspects like attacking a raid boss with many people to kill it. stormwind is nothing like the plane of knowledge, or at least it never was when I played. closest thing I can remember is dalaran during wrath, which was way after EQ died

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ was not based on DikuMUD so much that it got sued for copying their code ... but there's also zero chance that all of the overlaps between the two games were coincidental:



So, as I said before:

You literally quoted something that said Dikumud said they found no reason to believe that EQ copied anything lol. Guess you didn't read the full quote?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im glad you guys completely ignored me and I was able to still complete my conversation.

solo self found forumquest

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You literally quoted something that said Dikumud said they found no reason to believe that EQ copied anything lol. Guess you didn't read the full quote?

Guess you didn't read the explanation I gave to Reiwa, that in the English language something can be "derived from" something else even if it didn't copy the source code of that thing? For instance, everything that is derived from anything else that isn't a computer program?

I'll keep repeating it until you idiots learn to understand the language you're writing:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everything is derivative: it's just a question of degree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Mike McCready of Pearl Jam nicked a pure, fresh-from-the-well classic Ace Frehley lick in their song, "Alive."

That wasn't a derivation. It was pure hommage.

EQ, in contrast, is derivation. Derivation is genuinely another word for "lore" if you read some Joseph Campbell.

We're all derivative, if you are a Jungian. Who you gonna sue?