Halfling Warrior

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In answer to part b) an ogre will reach end game a little sooner, but the gear needed to max stats (with buff support) isn’t too heinous, even as a halfling. It is a bit trickier for a halfling to max without buffs though.

There are many choices for Warrior race that are worse than Halfling. I will not stand for this racism.

[Samoht]

Warrior Race Tiers

S tier:
Ogre (STATS/stun)

A+ tier:
Troll (stats/regen)

A tier:
Barbarian (stats)
Dwarf (stats)
Iksar (regen)

B tier:
Halfling
Gnome (haste)
Human

Elf tier:
Wood Elf
Dark Elf
Half-Elf

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Makken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my second post about stat allocation, I used endgame to refer to a point at which characters are maxing out all stats meaningful for their classes. Probably what I mean is with max-level priest buffs in a solid group / raid, will it matter if I spend five of my 25 starting points in STR. I again take the answer to be no.

All races can be stat capped on STR and DEX easily with buffs. Avatar + FoS is around 160 STR and DEX. I think the lowest starting STR/DEX is 65 or 70, so any naked race with those buffs has at least 220 STR and DEX before gear. Velious melee gear will easily give you those last 35 points (or less if your race starts with more) in both.

STA only gets +50 from Riotous Health, so STA is generally the better stat to dump into for endgame. You can also get +20 STA from Primal Essence, a clickie buff Shamans get from Hammer of the Dragonborn. But that doesn't stack with Avatar. You usually don't see Warriors asking for Primal Essence. That being said, Velious gear tends to be generous with STA, so you will eventually cap that too if you go full BiS.

Putting points into CHA is the only stat you are guaranteed not to cap as a Warrior. So you can do that if you are worried. CHA is used for a spell called Divine Intervention, which gives you a chance to not die if you normally would based on your CHA.

[kjs86z2]

cha war is only for the sweatiest of the sweatlords

[Makken]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Putting points into CHA is the only stat you are guaranteed not to cap as a Warrior. So you can do that if you are worried. CHA is used for a spell called Divine Intervention, which gives you a chance to not die if you normally would based on your CHA.

Thanks, DeathSilkyMist! I have not been worried about CHA or capping every stat. But that might be a product of my ignorance. I am particularly focused on STA (for taking hits) and STR (for hitting and holding aggro). And I guess maybe DEX and AGI to a lesser extent. But you raise a good point about the assumptions l am making about what is important.

[Makken]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warrior Race Tiers

S tier:
Ogre (STATS/stun)

A+ tier:
Troll (stats/regen)

A tier:
Barbarian (stats)
Dwarf (stats)
Iksar (regen)

B tier:
Halfling
Gnome (haste)
Human

Elf tier:
Wood Elf
Dark Elf
Half-Elf

Samoht, if the metric is FashionQuest and generally looking badass, does Elf Tier flip to the top? I watched a female wood elf tank Brother Quinn with a Blade of Strategy and a silver bucket on her head a couple months ago, and she looked really cool (bucket and all).

[kjs86z2]

fashion > any tier list

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Makken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks, DeathSilkyMist! I have not been worried about CHA or capping every stat. But that might be a product of my ignorance. I am particularly focused on STA (for taking hits) and STR (for hitting and holding aggro). And I guess maybe DEX and AGI to a lesser extent. But you raise a good point about the assumptions l am making about what is important.

From my understanding Str doesn’t help for aggro.

[Keebz]

Yea, STR is mainly useful for being able to carry all your crap without being encumbered (a set of plate armor, clickies, proc weapons, etc.). DPS is a distant secondary concern. Aggro is unrelated.

As you level, STR becomes less and less useful, meanwhile STA just gets better and better.

[CrazyPro]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fashion > any tier list

ogre is best fashion soooooooo