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[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think primarily because Enchanter charm is much more useful rather than limited to certain mob types

Yeah but that's the only dimension in which it's different. The gripe about enchanters here is that charm used to not be so reliable. People always claim: "Well *I* don't remember enchanters charming very much during live!", which is fine, but I also don't remember druids or necros charming like ever, so why isn't their charming ability ever called into question?

[loramin]

People's memories are just signposts saying "maybe there's something here" ... but this place wasn't built on memories, it was based on classic evidence.

If you're convinced Enchanter solo charming (or group charming for that matter) was common in classic, just show me some evidence. I'm probably the most vocal critic of P99's charm implementation on this server, but if you can do that I will switch to your side!

The thing is, I highly doubt you can find such evidence ... because I played (at the end of) the classic era, and as I remember it the vast majority of Enchanters didn't regularly charm back then.

[shovelquest]

Ill add some evidence that proves charm durrations were 12 minuets shorter in classic!

https://project1999.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=81

[wuanahto]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People's memories are just signposts saying "maybe there's something here" ... but this place wasn't built on memories, it was based on classic evidence.

we didnt know better back then, it was new and after dire charm became a thing we didnt get a chance to give a fuck

we are older, we know better. we noticed things with lower MR are easier to mez, therefore also means charm. then we started testing this in duels with other players with magic resist

its hard to have a memory hole when we didnt even know/when/where to dig back then

[Jimjam]

There are loads of quirks of the client/implementation here too.

No one knew about battle bandaging on p99 for years until I shared it.

No one knew about clicky bandaging until I shared that.

No one cares about bow bandaging.

Those are just bandaging bugs which went undisclosed for years on p99. With only 2 years of classic how many things must have gone undiscovered or undisclosed? There must be so much crazy shit out there people haven’t discovered or shared yet! Ghost stepping? Lag stepping? Stepping through platforms even as large as posky islands? Maybe? Hybrid knights? I’m sure I saw one. Half elf clerics? Perhaps? Npc held item manipulation? Probably loads.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People's memories are just signposts saying "maybe there's something here" ... but this place wasn't built on memories, it was based on classic evidence.

If you're convinced Enchanter solo charming (or group charming for that matter) was common in classic, just show me some evidence. I'm probably the most vocal critic of P99's charm implementation on this server, but if you can do that I will switch to your side!

The thing is, I highly doubt you can find such evidence ... because I played (at the end of) the classic era, and as I remember it the vast majority of Enchanters didn't regularly charm back then.

The thing is though, that's not relevant. The standard on this server isn't "well people didn't do this back then so they shouldn't be able to do it now." The standard is, and has always been, are the underlying mechanics classic. The staff have what they believe are the classic, or closest to classic as they can get, mechanics.

When I say mechanics I mean things like how charisma works, mob magic resist and the effect it has on things, and the effect level difference between you and a mob has on things.

If you don't like how Charm is implemented then it's on YOU to go find actual evidence that the underlying mechanics on P99 are incorrect. You don't get to demand other people find evidence for you (especially not evidence that's tangential to the issue at hand, which is whether the underlying mechanics are accurate for the classic era).

Either go find evidence or stop talking about it.

[Gozuk]

https://heroesjourneyemu.com/

It's still EQ but it's different enough that you don't even feel like you're betraying your loyalties to P99. If you're bored here I'd really recommend giving it a shot

[Ekco]

i had fun on THJ but to paint it as anything other than the complete opposite of p99 is hilarious, it's more like Live than most emu projects available.

for people that want to triple box but on a single character or play at that power level curve its amazing.

[Gozuk]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i had fun on THJ but to paint it as anything other than the complete opposite of p99 is hilarious, it's more like Live than most emu projects available.

for people that want to triple box but on a single character or play at that power level curve its amazing.

That's exactly what I'm saying. It's completely different

[Ekco]

what expansion is it on now? was kunark when i stopped playing