I was wrong about Pantheon.

[Bisonzabi]

Originally Posted by Balur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Brad will always be a legend. He followed a similar path to John Romero in that he changed video game history, lost the company he founded, and failed spectacularly when he tried to recover from that loss. Big deal. We all fuck up, but most of us never succeed on a high enough level to be granted the opportunity to fuck up on as grand a scale as Brad or John.

Long live Brad. I hope Pantheon honors his legacy.

Brad wasn't the sole reason why Everquest got big, infact it was Smedley of all people who pushed for it being fully 3D and even hired Brad in the first place. Same way that Romero wasn't the sole contributor of the success of Wolfeinstein 3D, Doom or Quake but due to a combination of people like John Carmack, Tom Hall, Adrian Carmack, Sandy Peterson, American Mcgee ect...
Brad wasn't this insurmountable genius and almost 18 years later I won't forget how horribly he managed Sigil while battling a drug addiction.
I already paid $100 for the CE of Vanguard in Jan 2007. Not paying $40 for an early access of another pre-alpha. Never again.

[shovelquest]

yeah, I would look at them launching even this as a major achievement. Like I imagine getting this game actually onto our PC's was exactly like that movie 1917.

I just think the graphics look a little shitty, and there are no darkelves

but there are shambling skeletons...hmmm

I also don't like how the camera is zoomed out so far. I can't get immersed with those wow cams.

[Ekco]

they didn't decide to go the shitty graphic style wow clone because they wanted to,

they had to pivot after Brad claimed people wanted old everquest or w/e and only raised 200k in a week on kickstarter instead of funding in like an hour.

[shovelquest]

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[Ekco]

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true enlightenment is realizing it's not the kids doing this to you and everquest, but everquest and you having already done this 26 years ago to TTRPGs

I'm trying to learn legit Nethack right now and the controls are more fucked up than Dwarf Fortress

barrier of entry is feature not a bug, casuals ruin everything. C.R.E.A.M dolla dolla bills yall.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

true enlightenment is realizing it's not the kids doing this to you and everquest, but everquest and you having already done this 26 years ago to TTRPGs

You almos got a whoah out of me, until I realized we were wearing converse, and the kids today are wearing crocks.

You're wrong.

You're wrong! What we did to TTRPGs was fucking AWESOME and idiots have tried to follow our generation and failed every time.

It's like, you're saying 90s anime ruined anime, because the anime in 2020 sucks.

NO!

That's just classic wokie brainwashing.

"we're all immigrants"

shut the f up no we aren't some of us are pioneers.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You almos got a whoah out of me, until I realized we were wearing converse, and the kids today are wearing crocks.

You're wrong.

You're wrong! What we did to TTRPGs was fucking AWESOME and idiots have tried to follow our generation and failed every time.

It's like, you're saying 90s anime ruined anime, because the anime in 2020 sucks.

NO!

That's just classic wokie brainwashing.

"we're all immigrants"

shut the f up no we aren't some of us are pioneers.

That's just your brain protecting you from the truth.

we're more like those light up shoes from the 90s and WoW was those shoes with half a rollerblade in the heel that went downhill straight into hell.

Brad's ideas... like his unrealistic plan for the paladin epic that involved mostly puzzles n shit, like someone had to explain to him the players are shit and are going to ruin it, HE was wearing the fuckin converses, not us.

dude was a dreamer
"Fuck gamers, acquire dirt bikes" - Brad probably.

[onmove_broke]

So it follows the same formula of killing a rat, then moving to the next zone to kill a bigger rat, then moving to the next zone and killing a bigger rat. Gonna be a pass for me

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by onmove_broke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it follows the same formula of killing a rat, then moving to the next zone to kill a bigger rat, then moving to the next zone and killing a bigger rat. Gonna be a pass for me

This describes almost every game ever, in a sense.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This describes almost every game ever, in a sense.

What’s make or break is:

- is the gameplay loop engaging and entertaining? Even if it’s repetitive, as long as it’s engaging, people will run that treadmill

- can a player separate themselves from the pack through clever use of game mechanics or gear choices? Without being able to separate selves by merit, people tend to lose interest

That’s off the top of my head. But yes just repetitive gameplay is not a game killer on its own. Just look at moba’s and battle royale fps