AC and p99

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I stated earlier:

For that scenario to work you need to have a spare ST key and prismatic scale to burn but also not 255 buffed stamina (as a warrior even).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For that scenario to work you need to have a spare ST key and prismatic scale to burn but also not 255 buffed stamina (as a warrior even).

ST Key? I am using https://wiki.project1999.com/Earring_of_Essence the 30 HP 10 MR Earring from Droga. I was not using https://wiki.project1999.com/Essence_Pearl . The names both have the word Essence, so I understand why you thought of the Essence Lens quest.

I was aggregating the stats of wearing 2 earring for each comparison:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember that many people use HP/STA earrings already, so the HP gains from 2x loops aren't as big as you think.

Lets compare 2x Hammered Golden Loop to Pearly Sarnak Bauble + Earring of Essence:

1. 150 HP, 16 STA, -30 AC, and 10 MR
2. 65 HP, 10 STA, 2 AC, and 10 MR

You are trading 32 AC for 85 HP and 6 STA. A 60 Warrior that isn't STA capped would be getting 121 HP at best. So you are trading 32 AC (a breastplate's worth of AC) for 121 Max HP, which is a little less than 1 max hit from a mob.

[Snaggles]

Sorry it’s been a long day. Disregard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s good to keep in mind though that AC really only shines in certain situations and gaining a solid 40-45hps in two slots is huge.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry it’s been a long day. Disregard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s good to keep in mind though that AC really only shines in certain situations and gaining a solid 40-45hps in two slots is huge.

No worries!

AC works in most solo/group scenarios. I wouldn't trade 32 AC for ~100HP unless it was for a specific situation. In most cases if 100 HP was the difference between life and death, you messed up somewhere. AC can reduce damage spikes in most solo/group scenarios, which helps to keep fights consistent and relaible. I am talking about high level players, to be clear. 100 HP at low levels like level 1 is going to be better than 32 AC probably.

Obviously there are exceptions. You'd want the HP when tanking AoW. Rangers might want the HP if AC is indeed broken for Rangers. Monks may want some extra Mend HP. You may want some extra HP if you plan on going after a caster that is hard to resist their damage spells, etc.

[Naethyn]

AC is trash unless you are fighting trash.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And knowing which few fights that's also critical to do so on if you still have the option to do so (which a BIS tank doesnt, but if you're at 6500-6700ish hp, you have plenty of options for super high AC stacked set and only sacrificing a few hundred hp).

If this the target reader, sure do whatever you want.

If this is a rando knight with 4500hps instead of 5500 raid buffed get some chardok drops and rethink your goals. The CH chain won’t be any different if you have high or low AC, you just will probably die more often.

[Naethyn]

Also, the AC displayed isn’t even the number that is used. Same goes for ATK. HP on the other hand is pretty accurate.

[Jimjam]

The consipiracy theory is we are using a nerfed version of dodge, etc from titanium era where they wanted to increase the skill caps (since max level had increased), but didn't want dodge and the like to become overpowered so just scaled down lower skill levels to stretch out the benefit of increased skill a little longer. Or something like that.

[Troxx]

Haven't ever actually parsed my ranger but it seems to get absolutely smushed even in xp group content compared to warrior, pal, monk, sham, or even my bard with similar ac. This was observed from all the way up to 60 on all of the above classes.

Again ... I haven't parsed but it certainly 'feels' really 'not right' for the ranger class specifically.

[Snaggles]

In 2002 we referred to rangers as “paper bag tanks”. There is nothing wrong with tanking a Docks group with a ranger especially if stuff is slowed. It’s just when stuff gets difficult they either bump and often die, bump and sometimes live, or just pray they never pull aggro.

Mitigation tanks like monks and warriors get the best gains from AC. Knights get some benefit. The rest of classes get gains but with asterisks as to how useful it is. None of this is surprising though. I feel Rangers should tank better than rogues but it’s never been the case.