Best Trio That Doesn't Use Enchanter

[Troxx]

Necro healing and torpor stack for 425hp/tick. This trio can heal anything really that is doable with a non-charming trio. Shaman regens and heals and necro heals and taps are just bonkers when you consider these classes trade hp for mana.

High dps.
Very capable pulls
Strong cc
High survivability

I can’t think of a stronger trio if enchanters are specifically excluded.

[Vexenu]

Another idea is PAL/MAG/SHM. But this is basically just a variation of NEC/MNK/SHM with less synergy. I think a more interesting question is eliminating both Enchanters and Shaman. MAG/MAG/CLR would be very strong in that case. The Cleric provides all the CC the Mages lack and obviously healing as well. On tough kills can alternate between Mages pet spamming and Cleric CHing pets, so you basically have three full mana bars worth of pets to throw at what you're fighting.

[Keebz]

If you bring a melee (MNK), shaman is a strong choice if not kind of an auto-include.

But you could go for pets instead, where once again Shaman is useless.

BRD / NEC / MAG

BRD / NEC / NEC

DRU|CLR / NEC / NEC

Some good options here. I like BRD for sieves, mez, pump, and general utility.

The most obvious advantage of the caster approach is no gear check and strength while leveling.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you bring a melee (MNK), shaman is a strong choice if not kind of an auto-include.

But you could go for pets instead, where once again Shaman is useless.

BRD / NEC / MAG

BRD / NEC / NEC

DRU|CLR / NEC / NEC

Some good options here. I like BRD for sieves, mez, pump, and general utility.

The most obvious advantage of the caster approach is no gear check and strength while leveling.

Shamans do a lot for charmed pets:

1. Torpor tanking removes the need for pet healing most of the time. They can heal them when needed too.
2. Torpor tanking makes positioning easier.
3. Torpor tanking increases pet DPS because the pet is attacking from behind.
4. Malo reduces the number of charm breaks.
5. Shamans can buff the pets.
6. Shamans help with charm breaks via root, blind, slow, aoe slow, and heals.

Enchanter/Shaman/Monk is a powerful trio, and a Shaman's synnergy with charmed pets is a factor in the power of this trio. Enchanters are not allowed in this thread, but Druid/Necro charming is being discussed.

[cd288]

What's the goal for the group? Feel like in the late 50s especially a Monk might not be very tankey unless you have it geared. So I feel like things like slow become way more important for example.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's the goal for the group? Feel like in the late 50s especially a Monk might not be very tankey unless you have it geared. So I feel like things like slow become way more important for example.

Monks are perfectly tanky at all levels. Not a huge gear requirement either

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monks are perfectly tanky at all levels. Not a huge gear requirement either

My 52 monk feels tankier than my 52 war or sk. For reference the monk is wearing crystalline silk (basically cured silk but with +magic resist … ie terrible ac for lvl 52) whereas my sk is wearing HoT plate.

I think it’s the huge avoidance, ac clicky buffs and block. Oh and redic short mend/stonestance reuse timers.

[Snaggles]

I think Pally - Shaman - Monk works very well.
Or maybe Ranger - Shaman - Monk.

In either case the hybrid just a +1. Just a matter which spell book you want more.

[Penish]

jokes on you ill box everything

[Zuranthium]

Not the pocket crap again. It's not more beneficial to main a Shaman to begin with. You want a Level 60 Cleric with good gear, so they have the best buffs and max mana to do as many heals as possible for the hard fights where it's needed. Shaman just needs to buff/Malo/slow, it doesn't require any gear.