Anti-Draft Week

[Stepper]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? Simply to have the classic experience of fighting a famous dragon (or giant, or whatever). If you got rid of (or lowered) the loot from a GM pick, "raiders" wouldn't come to these raids ... leaving room for non-raiders in the zone.

I don't post here much at all. I've been playing P99 on and off for over a decade now, and the highest level I reached is about 46 or 49 I believe on Blue.

I most certainly would be into killing a raid boss just for the experience. EverQuest to me is a nostalgia game. I can pick it up when I feel like playing something. I am unguilded because of my infrequency of playing.

I do believe it would be fun to dabble in raids, but only to experience them. No chance at loot? That's fine, I have no DKP anyway!

Now granted, I don't know if this should be the norm. Raids are kind of aspirational as a player. But maybe an off week every 6 months that real raiders can take vacations and "guided tours" of bosses becomes a thing for us casuals just for the experience. It'd be neat, albeit "not classic." But it wouldn't provide any benefit to those participating other than being part of a fight.

IDK, just wanted to weigh in as a casual on this.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Stepper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't post here much at all. I've been playing P99 on and off for over a decade now, and the highest level I reached is about 46 or 49 I believe on Blue.

I most certainly would be into killing a raid boss just for the experience. EverQuest to me is a nostalgia game. I can pick it up when I feel like playing something. I am unguilded because of my infrequency of playing.

I do believe it would be fun to dabble in raids, but only to experience them. No chance at loot? That's fine, I have no DKP anyway!

Now granted, I don't know if this should be the norm. Raids are kind of aspirational as a player. But maybe an off week every 6 months that real raiders can take vacations and "guided tours" of bosses becomes a thing for us casuals just for the experience. It'd be neat, albeit "not classic." But it wouldn't provide any benefit to those participating other than being part of a fight.

IDK, just wanted to weigh in as a casual on this.

You're sufficient level to do a few raids. Riot might take you for their Vox/Naggy squad maybe, since those raids are level capped. There are some other guilds that do planar stuff occasionally.

[fortior]

Thanks for commenting menden, I think your stated goal for the draft is great and also makes sure it’ll never be able to ‘take content’ from unguilded/non un guilded players

[Guesty07]

Seal Team effectively continues via Good Guys. And the open AoW was killed by...... all of the draft guilds.

[fortior]

I don’t think unguilded or non raiding guild members constitute the majority of the server’s raiding population. Not even in the slightest.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t think unguilded or non raiding guild members constitute the majority of the server’s raiding population. Not even in the slightest.

Everyone is unguilded or a non-raiding guild member before they ever raid for the first time.

At first you just play EQ alone or with a friend, but then some guy is spamming invites in the EC tunnel, and you figure "what the heck, let's see what guilds are about?" Then one day your guild chat buzzes about a member's epic fight, and it's only a zone away, so you decide to go. You kill your first Xenovorash, or General in Kithicor, or whatever, and ... you're hooked.

The occasional GM raid could similarly allow non-raiders to experience raiding and become part of the raiding population. Or even if they don't, letting them participate in (say) a single Vox fight fits the server's overall goal (of letting everyone experience classic EQ).

[fortior]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone is unguilded or a non-raiding guild member before they ever raid for the first time.

At first you just play EQ alone or with a friend, but then some guy is spamming invites in the EC tunnel, and you figure "what the heck, let's see what guilds are about?" Then one day your guild chat buzzes about a member's epic fight, and it's only a zone away, so you decide to go. You kill your first Xenovorash, or General in Kithicor, or whatever, and ... you're hooked.

The occasional GM raid could similarly allow non-raiders to experience raiding and become part of the raiding population. Or even if they don't, letting them participate in (say) a single Vox fight fits the server's overall goal (of letting everyone experience classic EQ).

Not true on green at least. Castle is the most populous leveling guild and they’re a raiding guild. FoH is too as is ancient blood through the castle alliance. There’s no more hard split between leveling and raiding guilds on p99 green

[Guesty07]

Anybody that thinks the combined total of Good Guys, Kingdom, Nova, Safe Space, Castle Alliance, Drift, Fires of Heaven and Lineage is the minority of the server is crazy

[fortior]

It’s true that everyone starts unguilded, but at level 20-30ish a LOT of people are tagged. Not all in raiding guilds, but by the time you get to raid relevant levels, 46+, people start wanting their epics and get guilded with a raiding capable guild. However it’s good to make sure there is room to be unaffiliated with a guild or to have cross guild grouping action going on. Ragefire should NOT be draftable content since it’s groupable.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s true that everyone starts unguilded, but at level 20-30ish a LOT of people are tagged. Not all in raiding guilds, but by the time you get to raid relevant levels, 46+, people start wanting their epics and get guilded with a raiding capable guild. However it’s good to make sure there is room to be unaffiliated with a guild or to have cross guild grouping action going on. Ragefire should NOT be draftable content since it’s groupable.

It's drafted because the logistics of it make it such that it could interfere with drafted Naggy and vice versa. It would cause more headaches for the staff if it wasn't included with Naggy.

It's like 5 days out of a month. Chill out.