Game Mechanics: Archery bonus Incorrectly Using Mainhand Primary

[Delfofthebla]

Rangers bout to be a lot less fun to play. Great work making things less interesting as always team. Keep up the "good" work.

[Swish]

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Rangers bout to be a lot less fun to play. Great work making things less interesting as always team. Keep up the "good" work.

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[CrazyPro]

It ain't much but I found this: https://web.archive.org/web/20001018...s.asp?ID=82328

Us rangers get critical hit in archery. To recognize how valuable this is, i'll set an example . At lvl 9 , i was able to score 32 damage all the time with my high archery skill with a rough elm bow. better than what a halberd hits. > )

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Brad McQuaid didn't seem to like the idea of archery being good. https://web.archive.org/web/20010304...adlog4-5_1.asp

<Uhgs> Aradune, there are so many people asking for Archery to be a viable primary attack...can't you find any way to make it balanced but primary? They would all LOVE it....
<Aradune> uhgs: no, i really don't want to make archery a primary combat skill, sorry

<Elderan> Aradune: NO one is asking for archery to be a pri combat skill, just as an ADDED skill for rangers while combat, IE combat archery
<Aradune> elderan: to make it viable for what you guys want, it would be a primary combat skill
<Aradune> and then it would be used instead of melee
<Aradune> and then EQ wouldn't be EQ

[kingcowboy]

Crit damage seems to be off

Please take a look at this thread. I've never had a crit this high even while main handing earthshaker

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=423813

[CrazyPro]

https://web.archive.org/web/20010824...html?item=4083

RE: rangers By: Nitrouz,
2 posts
Posted @ Thu, Mar 8th 3:39 PM 2001 Score: Decent[3.00]
you are very wrong. i use summoned arrows from my tolans bracer, and those are only 3 damage. i have gotten crits up to 144

this also takes into account the double-damage factor when still and not rooted... i have crit for over 100 when no double-damage was added.

AND....i use a wind saber...13/22...ONLY 13 dmg.
thats a total of 16 damage making up to 144 crit. NOW...can u imagine what i could crit with THIS?!?!? MUAHAHAHA

Nice bow By: Methlar,
1 posts
Posted @ Tue, Aug 7th 7:32 AM 2001 Score: Decent[3.00]
Got it tonigt but can't remember what type of rat it was (not like you have a choice in choosing which ones to fight LOL). Used one disc on it before we left, using 6dmg arrows. Highest crit I got (hit for double damage) was 402, so hit it for 804 total. My guess is you can get into the 600s and 700s with disc for single shot(have seen other rangers do it).

[Ruthbader]

Don't be modest sir, I see you digging out extra context.

[Awsten_Tx]

From language of the patch notes, bows should have a bonus, that bonus may get doubled for stationary targets and further bonused when trueshot active.

This is likely how the fabled 1k plus velious era bowshot occurred.

[Ennewi]

https://dbsanfte.github.io/eq-archiv...-msg-74548.txt

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"R. Jarett Kulm" <jarettkulm@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4EbY7.219$am4.460051@bcandid.telisphere.com.. .
> Before SOL, all was great. Buffed or Boon'd (avg 200str & 200-210 dex) I
> could crit for 650-800 with /disc trueshot on doublke damage hits. I
would
> average 230-380 on normal double damage crit hits. This is with a 30/39
> 110 range velium recurve.
>
> Currently, post SOL, I am lucky to hit 650 asa max crit, and 120-240
double
> damage shots. with the /disc. I am also seeing ALOT of hits that dont
sdo
> more than the bow would do unbuffed or no /disc.
>
> Any other rangers seeing lowered damage output with their bows since SOL?
> Seems like a stealth nerf to me.

And it couldn't POSSIBLY be simply a BUG...no, it's impossible, 'cause they
ARE out to screw YOU.

/Bug it, moron.

[nilbog]

Still working through this.


Non-ranger bow damage is looking much better - it is essentially the same as the Nina logs previously posted using the same level, weapon, stats and npc targets.

There is something wrong with ranger archery damage though. For example, in a brief test, double damage targets seem to take less damage than moving targets. It also seems that Trueshot 'works' for non-double hits but not for double-damage hits.

I don't want to apply a general fix for archery without considering rangers. So, more testing to do.

If there are any ranger logs, of non-Trueshot damage, that would help.

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still working through this.


Non-ranger bow damage is looking much better - it is essentially the same as the Nina logs previously posted using the same level, weapon, stats and npc targets.

There is something wrong with ranger archery damage though. For example, in a brief test, double damage targets seem to take less damage than moving targets. It also seems that Trueshot 'works' for non-double hits but not for double-damage hits.

I don't want to apply a general fix for archery without considering rangers. So, more testing to do.

If there are any ranger logs, of non-Trueshot damage, that would help.

When you say ranger logs, do you need in game p99 testing or in era historical context?