I know it's not classic, but... - Page 3

DeathsSilkyMist · #21 09-21-2022, 05:56 PM

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There's quite a few rogue mobs scattered around. I honestly think even regular warrior mobs would do more properly hasted with weapons. I don't have parses readily available to compare but I've played enchanters extensively and never seen a warrior do more. Like ever. Possible I never grouped with warriors that were twinked sufficiently? Dunno

This "a glyphed sentry" (level 27-29 Warrior) has 37% haste from Alacrity (to simulate Tola Robe), and a torch in offhand:

1436 in 1 minute 16 seconds = 18.9 DPS

Here is my 24 Warrior fighting a level 24 mob with just 22% worn haste from Silver Chitin Hand Wraps, so he could still be spell hasted. He is using Wurmslayer and Fist of Zek. This example doesn't have crit/crippling blows:

772 over 29 seconds = 26.6 DPS

Obviously more parses are needed to get a true average, but you can see that a charmed Warrior Pet's DPS isn't leagues ahead of what a Warrior could do. Even if it averaged out to where the Charmed Warrior Pet's DPS is 1 or 2 higher, that won't be a significant difference. You will be killing things well with a Warrior's DPS in the low levels.

PlsNoBan · #22 09-21-2022, 05:59 PM

If you say so man. I've had first hand experience dozens of times. I don't really care about anyone's questionable parse data.

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PlsNoBan · #23 09-21-2022, 06:53 PM

You know what they say "A picture is worth 1000 words" and the above GIF has 16 frames. Therefore via the power of math I just said "I'm out" 16,000 times.

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and I just said another 1000 to prove it. I know you'll appreciate the math and data here DSM <3

Jimjam · #24 09-21-2022, 06:56 PM

No one is taking a glyphed ghoul as a pet to guk. You need to run oarae on the same mob in the same zone imo.

VesperVapes · #25 09-21-2022, 06:56 PM

I'm making a warrior because Gimli

Troxx · #26 09-21-2022, 09:08 PM

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oh boy here we go another 300 pager

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Gloomlord · #27 09-21-2022, 10:00 PM

Yes, I know about root tanking. I know how to make a warrior tank work in a group.

All I'm saying is that it's frustrating when you have a lazy group member refusing to root and give the warrior time to get aggro. Did the developers intend for warrior, a tank class, to be so bad at holding aggro?

Troxx · #28 09-21-2022, 11:32 PM

https://wiki.project1999.com/Osargen

Charmed whut?

Jimjam · #29 09-22-2022, 02:57 AM

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Yes, I know about root tanking. I know how to make a warrior tank work in a group.

All I'm saying is that it's frustrating when you have a lazy group member refusing to root and give the warrior time to get aggro. Did the developers intend for warrior, a tank class, to be so bad at holding aggro?

No, sword and board was their intended to tank set up. Bash stun was meant to scale aggro with target mob hp the same way spell stun aggro does. Taunt was intended to work on yellow/reds at reduced efficiency instead of not at all.

They just fucked up the warrior’s two main tools to obtain and maintain aggro.

Goobles · #30 09-22-2022, 04:23 AM

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Why do we have to babysit warriors through the levelling process? Can't they get Provoke?

Everytime I group with a warrior, I groan with frustration, and then watch as both DPS and slowers proceed to pull of them and make a mess of things.

Let's start with simple quality of life improvements, such as guild or raid window. Or maybe /key