I have a 21 warrior, should I make an SK instead?

[dark void2100]

Hey all thanks for the replies, I've been thinking it over after reading replies and would much rather play an SK, I'm never going to raid enough to ever be the main tank of a raid.

Just got to motivate myself to make a new tank class! took over a month getting this far!

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like you define your group classically as: Warrior Dps Dps Dps CC Heals. In that set up you're looking at damage bouncing off 3-4 people negating any ill consequence other than healer mana.

Whereas, if you're going the 3-4 group member route you might be more inclined to go for a Knight to ensure 1 member takes the punishment while the others deal it.

I wasn't thinking of any specific setup. Exactly who is pulling aggro off the Warrior in any given situation? Have the other melee use non-proc weapons if possible, don't use debuffs right away if those spells are drawing too much aggro, don't use DD's until the target is at 50%, and USE ROOT if needed. If the people in your group who can cast root are getting resisted then you may need an SK or Pally over a Warrior, but that's about it (until you fight MOBs that summon).

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wasn't thinking of any specific setup. Exactly who is pulling aggro off the Warrior in any given situation? Have the other melee use non-proc weapons if possible, don't use debuffs right away if those spells are drawing too much aggro, don't use DD's until the target is at 50%, and USE ROOT if needed. If the people in your group who can cast root are getting resisted then you may need an SK or Pally over a Warrior, but that's about it (until you fight MOBs that summon).

Basically you ask the impossible. Not only do people not play this way, you're advocating lowering the effectiveness of the group simply so that you can inexplicably bring in the useless warrior who is absolutely unable to do the job that both hybrids do easily, almost innately. One might think they were designed to be that way! Go figure.

[NenshouStar]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically you ask the impossible. Not only do people not play this way, you're advocating lowering the effectiveness of the group simply so that you can inexplicably bring in the useless warrior who is absolutely unable to do the job that both hybrids do easily, almost innately. One might think they were designed to be that way! Go figure.

im afraid, from my experiences on this server. a warrior decently played. is far from "gimped", and as for lowering the effectiveness of the group?
i am sure anybody will agree with me when saying that the warrior is a solid team player. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID. it takes more then 1 to tango.
groups should be groups, and not a bunch of sissy players who decide to take a break from soloing only to recklessly beat at mobs with others.
not so sure about a warriors life 30-50, but almost always it is a team effort to control aggro. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Messianic]

Ideally, other players shouldn't have to reduce their damage so the tank can keep aggro. The only unavoidable part of this is nukes - and those shouldn't occur until later in the fight anyhow, if at all (nukes are never as efficient as melee/pet damage unless you have mana sitting around with nothing to spend it on).

[ukaking]

I play an iksar warrior and have reached lvl 51 thus far. So fun! Love the rich heritage of an iksar warrior too. U went with hybrid, lol. Have fun

[azeth]

Originally Posted by ukaking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I play an iksar warrior and have reached lvl 51 thus far. So fun! Love the rich heritage of an iksar warrior too. U went with hybrid, lol. Have fun

just curious what your dex is as an Iksar warrior?

[ukaking]

Right now, 138 I think

[Radiskull]

What everyone here seems to be looking past is that every dps class has a way to manage aggro. Monk pulls aggro off the warrior? FD. Rogue pulls aggro? Evade. Ranger pulls aggro? Why are you grouping with a ranger... but even they have root! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If someone is nuking and pulling aggro off you, or slowing, every class except mage can root anything that they pull off you, just make sure you're standing closer then everyone else, drop a taunt to put you on top of the aggro list when root breaks, and you're fine. It's not very complicated. It's as much the DPS's responsibility to mitigate aggro as it is for you to build aggro. Try high level groups where people know how to play a little better. Emphasis on a little. Talk to the people, tell the monk in your group who has a T-Staff to FD after procs. Tell the rogue to evade after a few backstabs. They should already know this, but if they don't, they're gonna have to learn sometime.

In the teens, twenties, thirties, chances are these players that are consistantly pulling aggro from warriors are twinks. If your warrior is as geared as your groups, you shouldn't have any trouble.

And to all these people saying SK over warrior any day. Warriors bring a +10% exp bonus to a group, SKs and Paladins bring a -40% exp penalty to a group. SKs and Paladins have their place in groups, but in my opinion, it's after you've asked the good warriors if they're interested first. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Xadion]

SKs are born into this world as SKs - real men know and feel the calling to be a dark knight of death, fear and decay- they dont play warriors or anything else and then decide they are something else oh a sk.

Keep your crappy warrior dont pollute the SK class.







40% penalty sucks btw.