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Old 06-21-2011, 03:46 PM
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Bard overhaste (the ervaj line) is in Velious.
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:57 PM
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Bard overhaste (the ervaj line) is in Velious.
Pretty sure ervaj line was not overhaste but stackable haste. IE you have FBSS (21% haste) and have Celerity(50%) that's 71% haste. Ervaj adds on to that up to 100% total capped.

It wasn't until later that we got rizlona line and such which gave us the post 100% overcap haste.

There are 4 hastes, worn, spell, bard ervaj, and bard overhaste/clicky overhaste

That is from live right now, so just a matter of time, but if it stops in velious pretty sure bards will never see true overhaste.
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:57 PM
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Only overhaste stacks w/ haste spells. Which comes with Velious.

Bards can do some pretty impressive DPS on a single mob if they twist in all their DoTs. Should be more damage then they'd achieve by just pure melee once all the DoTs are ticking and upkept. However this also has the added effect of turning the bard into the tank.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:44 PM
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3) Also, is it true that Cha effects your Mez/Enthrall songs, or is it ONLY your Charm?
Charisma does have an effect on charm/mez, while marginal. The biggest concern with charisma for a bard is the lull resist check. If lull resists, the higher charisma you have the lower the chance that it will be an aggro'ing resist.

Other than that, charisma will not help you enough to notice too much.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:58 PM
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It's really amazing after 12 years all the misconceptions that are still VERY present about bards... from people who play bards!

each post has been contradicted by another post in this very thread so far!

cheers!
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:25 PM
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It's really amazing after 12 years all the misconceptions that are still VERY present about bards... from people who play bards!

each post has been contradicted by another post in this very thread so far!

cheers!
The thing is that this server, while having some accurate coding, does have different formulas than live for calculating bard abilities. Haynar did an amazing job making bards very workable, especially since the server 1st launched, but it is not quite the same.
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Old 06-22-2011, 10:52 AM
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It's really amazing after 12 years all the misconceptions that are still VERY present about bards... from people who play bards!

each post has been contradicted by another post in this very thread so far!

cheers!
I was told to use my unresistable resistance debuff on a mob last January. Definitely a Velious spell...
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:16 PM
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Yeah, I am like more confused then ever now lmao. Everyone is saying something different almost lol. FML >_>.
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Old 07-06-2011, 04:43 PM
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Alot of bad info in here, especially about CHA.

It was proven through tests (although late in the game, amazingly) that Dex does not affect missed notes, CHA does. This was not figured out till well into the game when bards started getting really high CHA. Tests were run with and without gear and it was proved beyond a doubt that CHA lowers missed note frequency. The post and test were posted on the Concert Hall.

So as far as the debate about STA vs CHA, its a personal choice. You will get 4 HP per STA at lvl 60 so you cant basically count how many HP you'll give up by going with CHA instead.
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The post and test were posted on the Concert Hall.
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