when will staff unroot the dragons?

[unroot]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dragons are cleared in their lairs, lots of trash dies. Several guilds can compete / not leave empty handed.

It’s the best system so far.

you say this when vulak hasn't been competitive for the last 3 years

and it's not several guilds

the only guilds that kill ntov dragons during cycles (not quakes) are Vanq/Riot and then Kittens when multiple dragons have popped at the same time ... which only really happens on cycles after quakes

on quakes it's still those 3 guilds the vast majority of the time killing dragons in ntov

your argument is trash, this meta is the least competitive it has ever been and the distribution of mobs is the most jaded ever

[Arvan]

Originally Posted by unroot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you say this when vulak hasn't been competitive for the last 3 years

and it's not several guilds

the only guilds that kill ntov dragons during cycles (not quakes) are Vanq/Riot and then Kittens when multiple dragons have popped at the same time ... which only really happens on cycles after quakes

on quakes it's still those 3 guilds the vast majority of the time killing dragons in ntov

your argument is trash, this meta is the least competitive it has ever been and the distribution of mobs is the most jaded ever

Cool go join the roster in a smaller guild then. Vanq brings what 120 people to kill stuff? Have 50 go disperse into other guilds if you want more competition on blue. Zerg harder if you want less.

[Rager and Quitter]

Originally Posted by Arvan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool go join the roster in a smaller guild then. Vanq brings what 120 people to kill stuff? Have 50 go disperse into other guilds if you want more competition on blue. Zerg harder if you want less.

Damn, that many? Whats the challenge? To see who of the 20 clerics can CH the fastest? Also, I can only imagine the frenzy of that many people for just a handful of items. Maybe that's why Vanquish hates their own guild members, they see them as standing in the way of their pixels.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Rager and Quitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn, that many? Whats the challenge? To see who of the 20 clerics can CH the fastest? Also, I can only imagine the frenzy of that many people for just a handful of items. Maybe that's why Vanquish hates their own guild members, they see them as standing in the way of their pixels.

Too much competition during dkp bidding?

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by unroot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you say this when vulak hasn't been competitive for the last 3 years

and it's not several guilds

the only guilds that kill ntov dragons during cycles (not quakes) are Vanq/Riot and then Kittens when multiple dragons have popped at the same time ... which only really happens on cycles after quakes

on quakes it's still those 3 guilds the vast majority of the time killing dragons in ntov

your argument is trash, this meta is the least competitive it has ever been and the distribution of mobs is the most jaded ever

When your all-star pullers just can't take not being in the spot light anymore and lash out on the forums with a new throw-away account made just to whine about rooted pixel lizards.

[unroot]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When your all-star pullers just can't take not being in the spot light anymore and lash out on the forums with a new throw-away account made just to whine about rooted pixel lizards.

yo i forgot my forum account info, chill bro

and i've been whining about this shit well before vanq was a thing thank you very much

fundamentally bad game design when there are multiple guilds competing in tov

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by unroot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yo i forgot my forum account info, chill bro

and i've been whining about this shit well before vanq was a thing thank you very much

fundamentally bad game design when there are multiple guilds competing in tov

Same old story, different time of year. The zone was never meant to hold multiple guilds on a closed in server, if you have been around as long as you claim then you would already know that.

[Naethyn]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dragons are cleared in their lairs, lots of trash dies. Several guilds can compete / not leave empty handed.

It’s the best system so far.

The only system so far that I have seen that hasn't lead to the collapse of every competitive raiding entity after 6 months.

The fact is bags keep competition alive. Rooted dragons are way more fun because having a player get BIS without ever leaving the entrance of tov is dumb. Everyone gets to see the zone now and its far more blood pumping when the ntov competition is happening. When bags were moved to 1/4 it made less competition, because sure the 2nd raid entity is going to show up in force when they have some uncontested mobs to kill.

The real reason the top guild doesn't like this is because they can't lord over every pixel as every previous top guild has been able to do in server history by this point in the meta timeline. People have been saying it for years and quakes solve everything. Quakes are competition. The rest is just staring at walls the hardest.

Also, since its first in force for kael we should be using coth, because now its just a more obfuscated race that can still be cheated on.

[unroot]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only system so far that I have seen that hasn't lead to the collapse of every competitive raiding entity after 6 months.

The fact is bags keep competition alive. Rooted dragons are way more fun because having a player get BIS without ever leaving the entrance of tov is dumb. Everyone gets to see the zone now and its far more blood pumping when the ntov competition is happening. When bags were moved to 1/4 it made less competition, because sure the 2nd raid entity is going to show up in force when they have some uncontested mobs to kill.

The real reason the top guild doesn't like this is because they can't lord over every pixel as every previous top guild has been able to do in server history by this point in the meta timeline. People have been saying it for years and quakes solve everything. Quakes are competition. The rest is just staring at walls the hardest.

Also, since its first in force for kael we should be using coth, because now its just a more obfuscated race that can still be cheated on.

brain dead argument

unrooted dragons led to every vulak killing being a coinflip on who gets to kill it, regardless of fte

can you name one instance in unrooted era where only one guild killed vulak for a month in a row when another eligible raid force wasn't just straight up raid banned (like awakaned)

this new system is clearly so fucked that in order to not have guilds lord over vulak kills GMs needed to step in and come up with an arbitrary system to gift vulak to the #2 guild for free

[Lewkeng]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only system so far that I have seen that hasn't lead to the collapse of every competitive raiding entity after 6 months.

The fact is bags keep competition alive. Rooted dragons are way more fun because having a player get BIS without ever leaving the entrance of tov is dumb. Everyone gets to see the zone now and its far more blood pumping when the ntov competition is happening. When bags were moved to 1/4 it made less competition, because sure the 2nd raid entity is going to show up in force when they have some uncontested mobs to kill.

The real reason the top guild doesn't like this is because they can't lord over every pixel as every previous top guild has been able to do in server history by this point in the meta timeline. People have been saying it for years and quakes solve everything. Quakes are competition. The rest is just staring at walls the hardest.

Also, since its first in force for kael we should be using coth, because now its just a more obfuscated race that can still be cheated on.

bags keep guilds alive, not competition.. there hasnt rly been comp anywhere..