Would I be stupid to want to roll a second pally?

[Barlu]

High Elf is 35 less strength and 25 less stamina than a dwarf at the loss of 12 Wisdom and 35 charisma. Starting with 65 strength and 70 stamina is really rough and makes it very difficult to max even when fully buffed.

Also, I understand the appeal of the charisma from a lull perspective and it def contributed to me rolling a high elf. However, you use basic root until you get Enstill at 54. If you are dungeon crawling before lvl 54 you don’t really want to try to lull a room with more than 3 mobs in it because a Crit resist is going to mean you will have a hard time rooting and camping it all off in the 48 seconds root lasts. Sure some dungeons you have a zone line near by, but with no Feign Death or gate it’s a tough situation. If you are really twinked taking 3 mobs isn’t so bad up until a point, but there is definitely some levels between when that happens and before you get Enstill that will limit what you can do. I solo’d all the way to 60 and enjoyed it, but something to consider if this is a second pally and your first isn’t 60.

High Elf no doubt the min/max choice, but I would go Dwarf if you aren’t expecting to get to lvl 60 or a lot of raid gear.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Barlu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

High Elf is 35 less strength and 25 less stamina than a dwarf at the loss of 12 Wisdom and 35 charisma. Starting with 65 strength and 70 stamina is really rough and makes it very difficult to max even when fully buffed.

Also, I understand the appeal of the charisma from a lull perspective and it def contributed to me rolling a high elf. However, you use basic root until you get Enstill at 54. If you are dungeon crawling before lvl 54 you don’t really want to try to lull a room with more than 3 mobs in it because a Crit resist is going to mean you will have a hard time rooting and camping it all off in the 48 seconds root lasts. Sure some dungeons you have a zone line near by, but with no Feign Death or gate it’s a tough situation. If you are really twinked taking 3 mobs isn’t so bad up until a point, but there is definitely some levels between when that happens and before you get Enstill that will limit what you can do. I solo’d all the way to 60 and enjoyed it, but something to consider if this is a second pally and your first isn’t 60.

High Elf no doubt the min/max choice, but I would go Dwarf if you aren’t expecting to get to lvl 60 or a lot of raid gear.

I already have a 51 Dwarf Pally, that's what the point of this thread was, because I'm considering a second pally, and it would for sure be High Elf. I just wanted to inquire about the redundancy of making a duplicate class.

But the enjoyment factor aside, I think there's enough difference between a Brelldwarf Pally and a TunareHE Pally to make it an interesting ride.

[Barlu]

What I was getting at is your Tunare High Elf Pally isn’t going to really be any different than your current Pally except worse overall. If you want to roll a second one go for it l, but it will be a redundant experience with a weaker character.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Barlu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I was getting at is your Tunare High Elf Pally isn’t going to really be any different than your current Pally except worse overall. If you want to roll a second one go for it l, but it will be a redundant experience with a weaker character.

You just said High Elf is the Min/Max choice though.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You just said High Elf is the Min/Max choice though.

Even though it is the Min/Max choice, it often takes a long time for the Min/Max choice to really matter. Min/Max usually assumes you have Best in Slot Velious raid gear (or close to it). In that case, even a low STR/STA race like High Elf will be maxed out in STR and STA. The benefit to being a High Elf when you have Best in Slot Velious raid gear is that gear tends to give a ton of STR and STA, but doesn't give as much WIS and CHA. By going High Elf, you end up with higher WIS and CHA compared to a dwarf with the same Best in Slot Velious raid gear.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even though it is the Min/Max choice, it often takes a long time for the Min/Max choice to really matter. Min/Max usually assumes you have Best in Slot Velious raid gear (or close to it). In that case, even a low STR/STA race like High Elf will be maxed out in STR and STA. The benefit to being a High Elf when you have Best in Slot Velious raid gear is that gear tends to give a ton of STR and STA, but doesn't give as much WIS and CHA. By going High Elf, you end up with higher WIS and CHA compared to a dwarf with the same Best in Slot Velious raid gear.

Well the odds of me ever having BiS raid gear is effectively zilch. My end-game goals for a character are usually Epic + Thurgadin Armor OR Planar armor.

[Andyman1022]

Though I’ve never tried to do the MQ, I’m sure it can be done. It would require both parties to have the appropriate faction though. I honestly don’t see why anyone would go thru the trouble of spawning and killing Miragul with the intention to sell the MQ. Find some friends to help you kill him, he is super easy for a solid group of level 60s. Don’t re roll for natures defender. Most everyone else in this post got it right.

[Tunabros]

you have to remember paladins are like the one of most leasted played classes

even more than wizards

back on blue, i did my entire paladin epic in like 2 weeks

even when soulfire wasnt nerfed yet, the entire epic is easy

now on blue, i doubt there are many paladins trying for their epic

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Tunabros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you have to remember paladins are like the one of most leasted played classes

even more than wizards

back on blue, i did my entire paladin epic in like 2 weeks

even when soulfire wasnt nerfed yet, the entire epic is easy

now on blue, i doubt there are many paladins trying for their epic

I was told Miragul is killed within a few hours of spawning usually.

[Tunabros]

he has a nice robe that casters like to have