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[wuanahto]

Originally Posted by Tunabros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I learned that not everyone will stay and play all the way to velious

it was the start of extreme ac and giga hp fights which lead to luclin
next server if they cap it at kunark and sped up raid respawn times to a day or so would be perfect

[Toxigen]

I learned I made the right decision to just stay on Blue.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I learned I made the right decision to just stay on Blue.

[cd288]

That the beginning of the server is fun when everyone is starting fresh and the world is crowded, but by the time Kunark is released there’s really no point to not just playing on Blue

[Castle2.0]

1. Get manastones. Get them in bunches. Get them early.
2. Attempt to do what no one has done before
3. I learned a lot about logistics, organization, determination, and Google sheets via scroll questing (see signature)
4. Moments in time cannot be repeated. Nostalgia is a mirage. A feeling that leads to nowhere. It can be enjoyed as a mirage, but any serious pursuit makes it vanish. Thus, I sought out other adventures in Norrath instead of trying to relive the past. Even so, Vanity, all is Vanity says the Preacher.
5. Norrath is like the real world：良莠不齐 --> a mix of good and bad folks
6. Everquest is just one adventure. There are others. Maybe we come back around for another jaunt -- new servers are always fun when everyone is broke and we're all just trying to make our way. But there is a time to move on (see point 4)
7. Any closed system run by humans can be corrupted. Stay frosty.
8. Don't build sand castles in someone else's sandbox. They won't appreciate it. Build a real castle on the Rock.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really wanted to also get my first epic of all time, but I've resigned that even choosing the easiest classes for epics won't make it that easy. I really had fun questing for my robe of the lost circle, but I'll never be able to finish the Cleric or Monk epics due to the social constraints epics really need (respect for those who can finish one since I now know what that means in your ability to make a lot of friends).

The majority of epics really have no social constraints. You can be pretty casual and get most of them if you know how to farm pp to buy the mqs with little to no actual raiding required. Cleric epic is like 40k?

My advice to anyone is to make an enchanter first which makes playing pretty much any other class easy, get rich, and then go and twink the piss outta alts and get epics and whatever else your heart desires.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The majority of epics really have no social constraints. You can be pretty casual and get most of them if you know how to farm pp to buy the mqs with little to no actual raiding required. Cleric epic is like 40k?

My advice to anyone is to make an enchanter first which makes playing pretty much any other class easy, get rich, and then go and twink the piss outta alts and get epics and whatever else your heart desires.

As far as epics go, paying for everything sounds extremely boring and lame. Part of the fun with epics is the feeling of accomplishment having done the whole quest. Not only the great feeling when you finally finish all the grindy solo parts, but also having people come together to help you with the portions that you need multiple groups (or at least a group) to take down. That’s what EQ is all about.

If you’re paying for your entire epic you might as well go play WoW or some other “single player MMO”. Farming plat solo and then buying your epic and avoiding all interaction with others…seems like you’re missing the point of what makes EQ great

[Crede]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as epics go, paying for everything sounds extremely boring and lame. Part of the fun with epics is the feeling of accomplishment having done the whole quest. Not only the great feeling when you finally finish all the grindy solo parts, but also having people come together to help you with the portions that you need multiple groups (or at least a group) to take down. That’s what EQ is all about.

If you’re paying for your entire epic you might as well go play WoW or some other “single player MMO”. Farming plat solo and then buying your epic and avoiding all interaction with others…seems like you’re missing the point of what makes EQ great

This game has plenty of solo oriented classes/content, I'm not sure what's up with this "group or gtfo" mentality that I've been seeing on the forums lately. There's nothing like a good dungeon crawl with some buddies, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the game doing some solo stuff, especially when you have limited playtime. I'm not trying to say to avoid people at all costs, I'm just saying epics aren't necessarily as difficult to acquire as people think they are. You don't need to be this hardcore raider doing crazy things in the middle of the night to make it happen. Monk epic especially is not that difficult, you might need some raid help for a few of the parts but you can get that pretty easily in any guild as a casual. People are pretty generous around here, ask around and you will find help eventually if you don't wish to go the MQ route.

[Keza]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are pretty generous around here, ask around and you will find help eventually if you don't wish to go the MQ route.

There are a lot of helpful people, but begging for randoms to help you with epics feels the same as paying for it, personally. I'd feel embarassed asking randoms to help me with a raid target and I wouldn't feel happy about finally getting the epic because the feeling that you leeched it will always stain the memory. Same for joining a guild just for loot, which is what even the casual ones are really all about. They'll give unguilded alts epic pieces before newer guild members without a second thought, by the time you get your epic even in a "friendly casual" guild you'll be bitter.

It's basically the difference between soloing/grouping to level and begging for buffs/buying PLs, except on a more memorable scale. Everyone is so loot focused that epics are always gonna taste sour unless you bring a big group of friends into the game together or have no shame in how you obtain them, 'cuz most guilds aren't that friendly EQ1 experience. They're either a close-knit group of cringelords making a guild that randoms join or they're a big farming guild where you're unlikely to make friends. In my experience, anyway.

On-topic, I barely touched green 1 due to IRL stuff, but I re-learned that Luclin doesn't exist in more ways than one. Night be dark, y'all.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Keza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a lot of helpful people, but begging for randoms to help you with epics feels the same as paying for it, personally. I'd feel embarassed asking randoms to help me with a raid target and I wouldn't feel happy about finally getting the epic because the feeling that you leeched it will always stain the memory. Same for joining a guild just for loot, which is what even the casual ones are really all about. They'll give unguilded alts epic pieces before newer guild members without a second thought, by the time you get your epic even in a "friendly casual" guild you'll be bitter.

It's basically the difference between soloing/grouping to level and begging for buffs/buying PLs, except on a more memorable scale. Everyone is so loot focused that epics are always gonna taste sour unless you bring a big group of friends into the game together or have no shame in how you obtain them, 'cuz most guilds aren't that friendly EQ1 experience. They're either a close-knit group of cringelords making a guild that randoms join or they're a big farming guild where you're unlikely to make friends. In my experience, anyway.

On-topic, I barely touched green 1 due to IRL stuff, but I re-learned that Luclin doesn't exist in more ways than one. Night be dark, y'all.

So by this logic the only way to honorably achieve your epic is to get a big group of friends into the game together to help you? If one has that many "friends" that they can call upon at any moment to make that happen, I'd probably feel worse because that would likely have meant I've neglected my actual real life friends to make more in game.

I'll continue to collect my epics through my earned money/guild support to assist with things that I don't have the time for, feels plenty rewarding to me. Sorry for your bad guild experiences, mine have been pleasant for the most part.