Rules regarding camps when someone has gotten the named spawn

[Jibartik]

Who was that old shaman that used to sit on the tranix throne like he was an NPC for like 2 years

[p99deadstarre]

uninstall, but keep reading the forums for the luls.

hope this helps

[Arvan]

Originally Posted by p99deadstarre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

uninstall, but keep reading the forums for the luls.

hope this helps

[Samoht]

Nah, the OP posed a very specific question under false pretenses. This isn't a conversation, it's a farce.

I don't know if they're complaining because they're in Kittens and they think they can't raid without idols or if they just want the idol camp to sell idols.

OP is too busy playing the victim to play the game.

[Zenren]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, the OP posed a very specific question under false pretenses. This isn't a conversation, it's a farce.

I don't know if they're complaining because they're in Kittens and they think they can't raid without idols or if they just want the idol camp to sell idols.

OP is too busy playing the victim to play the game.

What is it with the attacks on Kittens dude? I mean, we get it, you think they're inferior and you dislike them and their casual ways. I might suggest you get a life and stop trolling the forum. You've got an opinion on everything and usually it's negative. Why can't you let those of us who can have a civil conversation without insults do that, and you go back to whatever you do for fun.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Zenren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is it with the attacks on Kittens dude? I mean, we get it, you think they're inferior and you dislike them and their casual ways.

Who attacked kittens? If you feel negative connotation for simply mentioning them, then that's on you not me.

But if you're posting this thread just because you think they cannot compete without idols, then that's just simply not true. They can't compete because I'm pretty sure that they actually have guild policies against competing.

If you want to actually raid, then you should probably find another guild that wants to raid instead of one that voluntarily sits on the sidelines.

And if there's any truth to this rumor that Riot officers are going to get to decide who gets to spend DKP and when, then there's going to be a lot of like-minded individuals out there also looking for guild pretty soon.

[Zenren]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who attacked kittens? If you feel negative connotation for simply mentioning them, then that's on you not me.

But if you're posting this thread just because you think they cannot compete without idols, then that's just simply not true. They can't compete because I'm pretty sure that they actually have guild policies against competing.

If you want to actually raid, then you should probably find another guild that wants to raid instead of one that voluntarily sits on the sidelines.

And if there's any truth to this rumor that Riot officers are going to get to decide who gets to spend DKP and when, then there's going to be a lot of like-minded individuals out there also looking for guild pretty soon.

Dude, saying "Please tell me he's in kittens" was derogatory. There was no playfulness, it was meant to infer they were inferior to the other guilds you mentioned, no one can read that any other way. There was no need to mention any guild period, which I hadn't done. A subtle insult is still an insult.

[Ravager]

Idols should have been nerfed a long time ago just like Ivandyr's Hoop. Make it a rarer drop and put a 2 second casting time on it.

As far as camp lockdowns, those are most definitely classic. It's not like there weren't no-life neckbeards in 1999. The options are the same now as they were then: Either move on and find something else to do, or hang around and annoy the crap out of them with your own no-life neckbeardiness until they get perturbed and leave.

[Zenren]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idols should have been nerfed a long time ago just like Ivandyr's Hoop. Make it a rarer drop and put a 2 second casting time on it.

As far as camp lockdowns, those are most definitely classic. It's not like there weren't no-life neckbeards in 1999. The options are the same now as they were then: Either move on and find something else to do, or hang around and annoy the crap out of them with your own no-life neckbeardiness until they get perturbed and leave.

This isn't entirely true. GMs would move people on when they saw them at a camp for excessive periods of time. You couldn't just live at a camp 24/7. In regards to project 1999, if you alternated characters that would be one thing, but changing who is playing the same character is just stupid, there should be a time limit on how long one character can stay at a camp in my opinion. Again Everquest grew, Project 1999 is stopped in time. The design was never for people to live in the Velious environment for a decade. You have to adapt to how the players are changing the environment, or the environment doesn't work for anyone except the people without a job or any real responsibilities who are monopolizing spawns so they can control the end game content and economy.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zenren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't entirely true. GMs would move people on when they saw them at a camp for excessive periods of time. You couldn't just live at a camp 24/7. In regards to project 1999, if you alternated characters that would be one thing, but changing who is playing the same character is just stupid, there should be a time limit on how long one character can stay at a camp in my opinion. Again Everquest grew, Project 1999 is stopped in time. The design was never for people to live in the Velious environment for a decade. You have to adapt to how the players are changing the environment, or the environment doesn't work for anyone except the people without a job or any real responsibilities who are monopolizing spawns so they can control the end game content and economy.

Again, play TLP if you want instancing and easy shots at items. Non-instanced games are designed around scarcity. There isn't a problem with the current setup. The game is working as intended.

There will always be no lifer people in games, you can't fix that. The way most games dealt with it was instancing, but the charm of P99 is it is one of the few MMOs left without instancing. Seriously, go play literally every other MMO if you don't like non-instsancing. Trying to change P99 because you want it to be a different game is just selfish.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It even specifically references using /random to determine who gets the camp ... ie. exactly what I've been saying we should do here.

Again, our PnP are unclassic, but often necessarily so because of our all volunteer GMs. In this particular case however, it's unnecessarily unclassic.

Its not unecessarily unclassic. You already gave the reason for it's necessity. Unlike live, where they had paid GMs, our staff is volunteer. We need a PnP that incentivises people to act like adults and solve their own problems before requiring a GM. The camp owner is the best bet at an impartial party when solving a dispute.