60 ENC and 60 SHM gearing each other through soloing

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by hagglebaby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a 60 enc with none of the expensive spells / no epic. I’m closing in on a 60 Shaman as well who also has none of the good gear or spells. By the time he is 60 I will have probably 100k pp between both toons.

What would be the best way to spend the 100K and what is the order in which you would accumulate gear/spells for both toons?

Thanks for your time

Delete the enchanter and buy 2x puppet strings for the shaman.

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[starkind]

they way you guys play this game is super wierd, its like u dont even play it until ur lvl 60 in bis then u just kill greens

(lol)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they way you guys play this game is super wierd, its like u dont even play it until ur lvl 60 in bis then u just kill greens

(lol)

If you are referring to Shamans, Torpor is a game changer. Many classes do not get a game changer as big as Torpor, so it makes sense why it can be hard to understand for players who haven't played a class with this.

Shamans spells are VERY mana heavy, so playing without Torpor limits what a Shaman can do quite a bit in all aspects (solo, grouping, raiding). That is why all Shamans want a Fungi Tunic + Fungi Staff + Black Fur Boots + Epic + JBB + any other mana saving clickie before level 60. That is the only way Shamans can offset their high mana cost spells before Torpor.

Obviously Shamans must get to 60 without Torpor, but it is a fairly limited path if you want to do it with any efficiency. Once you hit 60 your Shaman honestly cannot do a lot of good content without Torpor. This means your level 60 Shaman without Torpor isn't much different from your Shaman before level 60.

The biggest spell improvement (besides Torpor) at level 60 is Malo. Unfortunately since your level 59 Shaman can't solo a lot of harder content to begin with due to not having Torpor, Malo isn't as useful as you think. This is because most mobs you would be fighting at 59 are enough levels below you to have Malosini land consistently enough anyway. Malo is really used for harder mobs that have higher level/resistances. But as mentioned above, you cannot fight said harder mobs without Torpor usually. This means your mob selection between 59 and 60 doesn't really change until you get Torpor. Also, Malo is 150 more mana, so again it considerably reduces how many spells you can cast before you run out of mana and HP to cannibalize.

Malo is still good in grouping scenarios without Torpor, so it will give you a leg up when looking for groups that do harder content, such as Ixiblat Fer. However, there are plenty of Torpor Shamans on the server, so you will probably get passed over for a Torpor Shaman if that group had a choice.

[Jibartik]

torp is single handedly the most OP i've ever felt in this game haha I was like, oh I'm invincible now...

It's like, worst case senario happens, mobs everywhere, pet breaks, shaman casts 2 short cast spells, everyone is invincible.

[Tewaz]

The Enchanter with Bedlam can solo mobs that drop crowns and thrones in PoM if you want to farm plat to deck out the shaman. Torpor > Epic > Fungi seems to be the road.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get all shaman spells.

Shaman epic MQ.

Fungi.

Now all solo cash camps are yours to steamroll. Save for a Zlandicar's Heart. When you're bored of the shaman, buy a Z heart for your enchanter...its arguably better / more important than epic for solo enc.

Was gonna type out a post, but Toxigen basically said it

[starkind]

i have to admit torpor is pretty cool but i'd probalby quit my shaman once i got it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have to admit torpor is pretty cool but i'd probalby quit my shaman once i got it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s a but of a toon killer, like the mage epic, once you get it you do a couple of absurd things and be like “welp, this is it. Character is completed.”

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s a but of a toon killer, like the mage epic, once you get it you do a couple of absurd things and be like “welp, this is it. Character is completed.”

Mage epic is definitely a char retiring item. Torpor unlocks a lot of solo stuff...and if you've taken a shaman that far chances are you've got big target solo play in mind.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mage epic is definitely a char retiring item. Torpor unlocks a lot of solo stuff...and if you've taken a shaman that far chances are you've got big target solo play in mind.

Agreed, Torpor isn't a character retiring item. Mage Epic is WAY harder to get and takes years often times. Torpor can be gained at basically any time if you spend the time to farm money/items (or go on a lot of Kunark raids). Getting 80k is much easier than getting Mage Epic unless you are that 1 in a billion person who has Earth Staff drop on your first or second Hate raid, and you win the roll/bid. Earth Staff is at least 10x more expensive than Torpor, and it is very difficult to find a seller.