2022 & 2024 Political Predictionxs

[Gravydoo II]

Yeah I bet spending trillions on the american people is just so bad for america.. We better just keep giving it away to the giant corporations and the ultra rich, like we have been. Weird how in one year of helping the american people, inflation is just off the charts according to the right. It has nothing to do with the twenty years or corporate welfare and tax breaks they got.. I mean which one is more plausible? The twenty years of shoveling money to them to horde or the literally sixty days of reinvesting in the american people?

See how much republicans hate the idea of helping the average american?? Its disgusts them. See how opposed to it they are? They will try to understand economics to prove that corporate welfare is the way forward and has no blame for the MASSIVE 1% inflation rate. I guess when you worship the rich and powerful, all you want to do is be a cock holster for them. Almost like, they learned this from another cock holster who was doing it for an actual rich guy..

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I bet spending trillions on the american people is just so bad for america.. We better just keep giving it away to the giant corporations and the ultra rich, like we have been. Weird how in one year of helping the american people, inflation is just off the charts according to the right. It has nothing to do with the twenty years or corporate welfare and tax breaks they got.. I mean which one is more plausible? The twenty years of shoveling money to them to horde or the literally sixty days of reinvesting in the american people?

See how much republicans hate the idea of helping the average american?? Its disgusts them. See how opposed to it they are? They will try to understand economics to prove that corporate welfare is the way forward and has no blame for the MASSIVE 1% inflation rate. I guess when you worship the rich and powerful, all you want to do is be a cock holster for them. Almost like, they learned this from another cock holster who was doing it for an actual rich guy..

Tax breaks(or "loopholes") exist to incentivize types of economic activity the government has an interest in promoting, like renewable energy for example.

[Gravydoo II]

Why does the surrounding area need to pay 100k per worker per year(in tax breaks) when that worker is only being paid 30k? Thats how it works out in the end. They get this ENORMOUS tax break, the people around the are now paying a company to employ them, before the company even opens. Since they wont be paying taxes, it only works in their benifit. They should be paying the town, offering to build something the town wants, in exchange for their store or factory. Not the town paying them for the privilege of having a job. Why is it so fucking backward..? Cause the companies will just pay the town BOCC to approve it with or without you..

Thats how it works.

[unsunghero]

The way to really settle it is a lot of Conservatives just need to bite the bullet and risk voter fraud charges and try to mass cheat lol (and yes I'm kidding about this)

Both sides can pretend they care about cheating, but the side that cheats more is obviously going to care less. I wonder how Dems opinion on voter fraud would shift, if all of a sudden hundreds of thousands of fake conservative votes started flooding in

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way to really settle it is a lot of Conservatives just need to bite the bullet and risk voter fraud charges and try to mass cheat lol (and yes I'm kidding about this)

Both sides can pretend they care about cheating, but the side that cheats more is obviously going to care less. I wonder how Dems opinion on voter fraud would shift, if all of a sudden hundreds of thousands of fake conservative votes started flooding in

Exactly, but the thing is, dems like liz warren *were* raising the same concerns about voter integrity in 2016 that republicans were in 2020. Then lo and behold, they win 2020 and their tune changes to "most secure election of all time", which is a totally absurd statement. Really? The most people EVER to vote in a presidential election, during a pandemic when there were dozens of special voting procedure exceptions made to accommodate covid? That is somehow *more* secure? Give me a break.

What really bothers me about dems and voting rights is that they posture as if voting is the most sacred of all rights, but then oppose just showing an ID?

Like sorry but if you aren't willing to go stand in line for 30 minutes at the dmv to partake in the most sacred of all rights, then maybe you shouldn't vote? It's a privilege to be able to vote, not a right. Many places in the world still don't have this luxury, so how about we just ensure our system is secure and not a total laughingstock?

I've noticed people from other countries are really perplexed that this is even an issue. It's always something like "Haha what? You don't have to show your ID to vote for the next president? I had to show my ID to rent a car today...".

[mcoy]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a privilege to be able to vote, not a right.

The constitution would like a word. There is absolutely a right to vote. It's even specifically called out in several amendments like the 15th:

"The right of citizens of the United States to vote..."

If this was already brought up, I apologize as I'm a few pages behind.

-Mcoy

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by mcoy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The constitution would like a word. There is absolutely a right to vote. It's even specifically called out in several amendments like the 15th:

"The right of citizens of the United States to vote..."

If this was already brought up, I apologize as I'm a few pages behind.

-Mcoy

Yes, the right of *CITIZENS* to vote.

We already have a process to legally immigrate. Millions upon millions of people have already done it.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, the right of *CITIZENS* to vote.

We already have a process to legally immigrate. Millions upon millions of people have already done it.

Why take mass non-citizen voting as a priori true? Non-voting citizens are more common than voting citizens.

[Whale biologist]

*smug, pointing to the very mechanism by which votes are suppressed*

"See? This proves it doesn't suppress votes!"

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*smug, pointing to the very mechanism by which votes are suppressed*

"See? This proves it doesn't suppress votes!"

What in god's holy name are you talking about?

I don't need to "prove" that it "doesn't suppress votes". It doesn't "suppress votes" just like requiring ID to see a rated R movie doesn't "suppress" people from going to the movies. If you wanna go, just get a god damn ID. Not hard, not racist.

The racist thing is the unspoken suggestion that black people are somehow less capable than other races of getting an ID. The claim is "well, they are more likely to be impoverished, and they often vote dem, therefor requiring them to get an ID to vote is going to suppress black votes and thus dem votes. The problem is that there are more total white people in poverty than black people, WAY more. So if poverty supposedly makes it hard to get down to the DMV (I can't stop laughing at how retarded this notion is btw), they might very well be "suppressing" more impoverished republican white votes. This is why per capita matters, and why voter ID is not even remotely racist in any way.

One might even call it a baseless conspiracy theory that republicans want to nefariously "suppress" black votes by requiring ID, when they might easily be "suppressing" even more impoverished republican white votes for the same reason. Why would they want to do that?

It takes five seconds of critical thought to realize this issue shouldn't even be a debate.