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[starkind]

I played on blue in 2010. I forgot all of it tho.

[Solist]

Nowhere near velious launch.

We made Rampage when we came back to P99 from EQmac/Al KAbor, as it was shut down.

So we grabbed the talented folks from The A Team, and raided for about 4-6 weeks taking back VP from TMO. Then rebranded as Rampage, yolo until velious. Then qwinter came and game became shit and boring.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nowhere near velious launch.

We made Rampage when we came back to P99 from EQmac/Al KAbor, as it was shut down.

So we grabbed the talented folks from The A Team, and raided for about 4-6 weeks taking back VP from TMO. Then rebranded as Rampage, yolo until velious. Then qwinter came and game became shit and boring.

Lol you seem to have some revisionist history yourself. IB came back and started teaming with FE in VP to try and beat TMO. FE Merged into TMO cause they hated IB that much and then IB was getting destroyed (I heard the TS convo by getsome and hoku sayinh "if we dont do something, we wont make it to velious". You then absorbed A-Team (all of it, you didnt cherry pick who you thought was elite)/

Youre better than this bro, dont just straight up lie!

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol you seem to have some revisionist history yourself. IB came back and started teaming with FE in VP to try and beat TMO. FE Merged into TMO cause they hated IB that much and then IB was getting destroyed (I heard the TS convo by getsome and hoku sayinh "if we dont do something, we wont make it to velious". You then absorbed A-Team (all of it, you didnt cherry pick who you thought was elite)/

Youre better than this bro, dont just straight up lie!

Wasnt that many in A-team tbh, we also took some bda and few from tmo flipped.

[azxten]

I don't know what is more hilarious. The idea of conceding raid mobs in EQ, having cross guild raid rules in EQ for about 10 years now, or the nerd lore about guild timelines. Also, yes, Aftermath and Rampage existed at the same time. I know because I was kicked out of Forsaken right before they merged due to trolling their officers and having a life outside P99.

Raid rules are so cucked. Staff should stop answering all petitions. PVE EQ was only fun when the GMs ignored all petitions and the play nice policy was more of a suggestion than an iron fisted dictate that would get your account banned for a single made up infraction like on P99.

[Solist]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know what is more hilarious. The idea of conceding raid mobs in EQ, having cross guild raid rules in EQ for about 10 years now, or the nerd lore about guild timelines. Also, yes, Aftermath and Rampage existed at the same time. I know because I was kicked out of Forsaken right before they merged due to trolling their officers and having a life outside P99.

Raid rules are so cucked. Staff should stop answering all petitions. PVE EQ was only fun when the GMs ignored all petitions and the play nice policy was more of a suggestion than an iron fisted dictate that would get your account banned for a single made up infraction like on P99.

Why do we have ANY raid rules, except respect FTE, and follow the PNP.

Park a raid force at doze, who cares.
Camp your toons at trak, who cares.
Claim tormax's room as a camp and claim him, who cares.

PNP covers every possibility. If a guild wants to sit at yelinak and do nothing for 4 days 'camping it'...go for it. Zero reason for raid rules, they lose yeli if they leave to go elsewhere and someone claims it.

Whole idea of raid rules is arbitrary and outdated. We had no rules on p99 many times, while maintaining PNP. Never have we not respected FTE, except for a 4 week period in VP, once. We had no PNP for a 6 week period in VP, once. Those times were epic but unsustainable.

The period of no rules worked fine, most of velious start had zero raid rules, worked fine.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do we have ANY raid rules, except respect FTE, and follow the PNP.

Because there is always a core of no life losers on P99 that takes raiding way too seriously and monopolizes every raid mob no matter how small it is. Inevitably someone who is actually good at the game shows up and "takes" one of their mobs and they throw a huge hissy fit griefing everyone, kill stealing, etc across the whole server because someone dared "challenge" them. Since they can't actually play the game well they just act like jerks to everyone in any possible situation in game. The GMs get sick of all the petitions from this behavior and while they do suspend and ban the players the said no life losers just immediately create a new character and get power leveled back to max level. They maintain at least a dozen max level characters across multiple logins rotating VPNs to ensure nothing is linked so that they can burn characters being a dick like this and not really be impacted. The GMs eventually realize that they're powerless to stop such pathetic losers from continuing to act like babies and steal mobs in Crushbone from new players given their bans have no effect and so they start to making dramatic statements like, "If you players who are nice and good at the game don't work out some kind of deal with the pathetic no life neck bearded losers to stop this endless petition nightmare we're going to close all raiding down."

And thus.. an agreement and rules are created. The no lifers then abuse the rules to continue to monopolize content and pretend they're actually good players and if anyone challenges them the cycle starts over again and more rules are added.

I used to actually think this was the same group of people for the last 10 years but now I realize it's actually different no life losers who come and go but they're always there for some reason and they're always actually pretty bad at the game and confused time commitment with skill.

[AenorVZ]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because there is always a core of no life losers on P99 that takes raiding way too seriously and monopolizes every raid mob no matter how small it is. Inevitably someone who is actually good at the game shows up and "takes" one of their mobs and they throw a huge hissy fit griefing everyone, kill stealing, etc across the whole server because someone dared "challenge" them. Since they can't actually play the game well they just act like jerks to everyone in any possible situation in game. The GMs get sick of all the petitions from this behavior and while they do suspend and ban the players the said no life losers just immediately create a new character and get power leveled back to max level. They maintain at least a dozen max level characters across multiple logins rotating VPNs to ensure nothing is linked so that they can burn characters being a dick like this and not really be impacted. The GMs eventually realize that they're powerless to stop such pathetic losers from continuing to act like babies and steal mobs in Crushbone from new players given their bans have no effect and so they start to making dramatic statements like, "If you players who are nice and good at the game don't work out some kind of deal with the pathetic no life neck bearded losers to stop this endless petition nightmare we're going to close all raiding down."

And thus.. an agreement and rules are created. The no lifers then abuse the rules to continue to monopolize content and pretend they're actually good players and if anyone challenges them the cycle starts over again and more rules are added.

I used to actually think this was the same group of people for the last 10 years but now I realize it's actually different no life losers who come and go but they're always there for some reason and they're always actually pretty bad at the game and confused time commitment with skill.

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[myrddraal]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because there is always a core of no life losers on P99 that takes raiding way too seriously and monopolizes every raid mob no matter how small it is. Inevitably someone who is actually good at the game shows up and "takes" one of their mobs and they throw a huge hissy fit griefing everyone, kill stealing, etc across the whole server because someone dared "challenge" them. Since they can't actually play the game well they just act like jerks to everyone in any possible situation in game. The GMs get sick of all the petitions from this behavior and while they do suspend and ban the players the said no life losers just immediately create a new character and get power leveled back to max level. They maintain at least a dozen max level characters across multiple logins rotating VPNs to ensure nothing is linked so that they can burn characters being a dick like this and not really be impacted. The GMs eventually realize that they're powerless to stop such pathetic losers from continuing to act like babies and steal mobs in Crushbone from new players given their bans have no effect and so they start to making dramatic statements like, "If you players who are nice and good at the game don't work out some kind of deal with the pathetic no life neck bearded losers to stop this endless petition nightmare we're going to close all raiding down."

And thus.. an agreement and rules are created. The no lifers then abuse the rules to continue to monopolize content and pretend they're actually good players and if anyone challenges them the cycle starts over again and more rules are added.

I used to actually think this was the same group of people for the last 10 years but now I realize it's actually different no life losers who come and go but they're always there for some reason and they're always actually pretty bad at the game and confused time commitment with skill.

hey now, people need things like fear golems for aons to sell for plat to RMT!

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do we have ANY raid rules, except respect FTE, and follow the PNP.

Park a raid force at doze, who cares.
Camp your toons at trak, who cares.
Claim tormax's room as a camp and claim him, who cares.

PNP covers every possibility. If a guild wants to sit at yelinak and do nothing for 4 days 'camping it'...go for it. Zero reason for raid rules, they lose yeli if they leave to go elsewhere and someone claims it.

Whole idea of raid rules is arbitrary and outdated. We had no rules on p99 many times, while maintaining PNP. Never have we not respected FTE, except for a 4 week period in VP, once. We had no PNP for a 6 week period in VP, once. Those times were epic but unsustainable.

The period of no rules worked fine, most of velious start had zero raid rules, worked fine.

Because a big enough guild would sit at and camp most of the important spawns and lock them down. You don't want that poopsock nightmare.