Riot kites then kills KT. Surprised no free Vulak after wiping on free attempt.

[myrddraal]

Originally Posted by Dman2701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how you keep trying to justify training people. The mental gymnastics you people do is astonishing.

my favorite one was the christmas aary hallway train. There are just so many to pick from though.

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Dman2701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how you keep trying to justify training people. The mental gymnastics you people do is astonishing.

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you weren't engaged on anything and got a free attempt, what do you think should have happened instead when you were trained?

[karadin]

Originally Posted by Dman2701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how you keep trying to justify training people. The mental gymnastics you people do is astonishing.

Kickenit I really don’t see anyone justifying a train. If Klaz trained you then that sucks. The right thing to do since we did not wipe an active engage is to give you an unfettered attempt at the mob, which is exactly what happened. All situations of this nature should be handled like that and we would all be better off. We were trained by Riot on Eashan last week and we played on. We made our attempt and failed miserably, Riot came in and had a textbook kill.

[karadin]

Forgot to add to the above: the unfettered attempt was out of an abundance of caution while we reviewed the issue.

[Posiden]

You keep saying, "you got a free attempt" while ignoring the obvious. There would have been a free attempt regardless. You wiped. Once you wiped a free attempt was guaranteed. You pretending that you did some favor, or made some concession is pretty disingenuous at best. That'd be kind of like stealing $5 from someone, getting caught, then you giving the $5 back and claiming that was your punishment.

[karadin]

Originally Posted by Posiden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You keep saying, "you got a free attempt" while ignoring the obvious. There would have been a free attempt regardless. You wiped. Once you wiped a free attempt was guaranteed. You pretending that you did some favor, or made some concession is pretty disingenuous at best. That'd be kind of like stealing $5 from someone, getting caught, then you giving the $5 back and claiming that was your punishment.

The point made here is that Vanquish did not use Kriot’s setback as an excuse to leapfrog you with another attempt of our own. The situation played out exactly as it should have. V wiped, R wiped, V killed. The raid concern brought up did not change the course of the evening.

[tacomagradd]

Q3 As Vanq reads it:

Q3: If we feel our own guild/party has violated a rule, what actions should we take?
A: If you screw up, then you should concede the mob you screwed up on deny guilt, and if your competitors engage before you, claim you gave them a "free" attempt that absolves you of all guilt.

Not a bad strategy. It may work, but the petition is coming. Maybe just a PNP violation for Klaz. Who knows?

Grats on the Hobarts!

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by tacomagradd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Q3 As Vanq reads it:

Q3: If we feel our own guild/party has violated a rule, what actions should we take?
A: If you screw up, then you should concede the mob you screwed up on deny guilt, and if your competitors engage before you, claim you gave them a "free" attempt that absolves you of all guilt.

Not a bad strategy. It may work, but the petition is coming. Maybe just a PNP violation for Klaz. Who knows?

Grats on the Hobarts!

threatening with a petition

fucking losers can't even kill the mob

hope gms tell you to get bent

[Chakfor]

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

threatening with a petition

fucking losers can't even kill the mob

hope gms tell you to get bent

Adorable. Really helping drive home the horrible guild reputation there. Gonna threaten to kick peoples teeth in next? Maybe accuse somebody of being an internet tough guy? Or you gonna pull a Furoar and log into another guilds alt to train them?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by tacomagradd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Q3 As Vanq reads it:

Q3: If we feel our own guild/party has violated a rule, what actions should we take?
A: If you screw up, then you should concede the mob you screwed up on deny guilt, and if your competitors engage before you, claim you gave them a "free" attempt that absolves you of all guilt.

Not a bad strategy. It may work, but the petition is coming. Maybe just a PNP violation for Klaz. Who knows?

Grats on the Hobarts!

What do you call the strategy when <Riot> kites KT back to the throne room, refuses to drop it, and kills it anyway? Where's the concession?