P99 green launch permanently killed my enthusiasm for everquest

[Evia]

I relate to this. Idk if for the same reasons, but I definitely lost all my interest in eq after green launch. Something about the overall vibe of the player base really turned me off. It was very ugly and self serving. I even got caught up in it for a moment and really had to start evaluating my life and my time spent. Ultimately decided to just take a break. Kinda looking forward to mischief so we will see if that reinvigorates my interest in EQ.

P.s. StrongNpretty were still due a exp sesh bro!

[strongNpretty]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I relate to this. Idk if for the same reasons, but I definitely lost all my interest in eq after green launch. Something about the overall vibe of the player base really turned me off. It was very ugly and self serving. I even got caught up in it for a moment and really had to start evaluating my life and my time spent. Ultimately decided to just take a break. Kinda looking forward to mischief so we will see if that reinvigorates my interest in EQ.

P.s. StrongNpretty were still due a exp sesh bro!

Evia, you awesome son of a gun- We sure do need a sess soon! You should see me online over the next couple days!!! I'm expecting /tell followed up with an adventure!

[Baler]

Xezn
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 1

Originally Posted by Xezn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I used to love this server and would play it in between TLP on and off throughout the years.

I'm not trying to troll you but something doesn't add up with the things you said.

I thought green's launch was one of the biggest and best highlights of the server. People were doing content and grouping like crazy. even the worst magic items were selling for some plat value.

I understand what you mean by 'experimental changes'. There was and are things that are not classic plain and simple. This didn't start with the launch of green however. Such as the first month of kunark with no quest exp, nerfing wort pots, nerfing clickies.

Hill giants were Fixed not nerfed, I want that to be clear. I know that change upset alot of people but they actually made it more classic.

[Xer0]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Xezn
Join Date: May 2021
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I'm not trying to troll you but something doesn't add up with the things you said.

I thought green's launch was one of the biggest and best highlights of the server. People were doing content and grouping like crazy. even the worst magic items were selling for some plat value.

I understand what you mean by 'experimental changes'. There was and are things that are not classic plain and simple. This didn't start with the launch of green however. Such as the first month of kunark with no quest exp, nerfing wort pots, nerfing clickies.

Hill giants were Fixed not nerfed, I want that to be clear. I know that change upset alot of people but they actually made it more classic.

I am pretty sure /list was planned from day 1.

[Darkwoo]

Originally Posted by Xer0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am pretty sure /list was planned from day 1.

What solution would you recommend staff implement for camps like manastone?

[Hyjalx]

how about implement nothing

[Darkwoo]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how about implement nothing

That would suck. One small group of friends would own all the manastones on the server.

I'm pretty critical of the staff (to say the least), but I think the list system was a good change.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Darkwoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would suck. One small group of friends would own all the manastones on the server.

I'm pretty critical of the staff (to say the least), but I think the list system was a good change.

I mean technically that is how classic worked to a certain extent. And I say that from an unbiased place of having no desire to camp a legacy item, so I’m not trying to farm and lock it down forever

[Danth]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean technically that is how classic worked to a certain extent.

It's a case where no P99 implementation will be entirely classic, nor entirely wrong, because it varied server to server depending on the whims of the GMs. On one server they would've (and did) force people to leave if they hogged camps for too long, on a second server they didn't respect camps at all, on a third they might've let someone hog it forever. Of course nobody knew in advance that manastones and similar items were going to be removed so we're simulating what would've been a psychic population in 1999. Custom solutions suit custom problems, I suppose.

Manowarr has an accurate assessment: A lot of P99's rules are designed to reduce staff workload first, maintain classic feel as secondary priority.

Danth

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a case where no P99 implementation will be entirely classic, nor entirely wrong, because it varied server to server depending on the whims of the GMs. On one server they would've (and did) force people to leave if they hogged camps for too long, on a second server they didn't respect camps at all, on a third they might've let someone hog it forever. Of course nobody knew in advance that manastones and similar items were going to be removed so we're simulating what would've been a psychic population in 1999. Custom solutions suit custom problems, I suppose.

Manowarr has an accurate assessment: A lot of P99's rules are designed to reduce staff workload first, maintain classic feel as secondary priority.

Danth

As in era CSR I don’t remember ever making someone leave a camp for being at it too long, nor do I remember that being told to staff as something that you were allowed to do.

Honestly, back in the day someone holding down camps for days at a time wasn’t really as rampant as it is on P99 really. For various reasons. One being that you didn’t have nearly as much account sharing back then; people guarded their accounts closely and it didn’t become the norm to have guilds sharing accounts for example until a few years in. Another reason was simply lack of knowledge...not everyone knew how valuable certain items could be whether in plat or their use in raids etc (also didn’t know they would later be nerfed so there wasn’t this mad rush to get them).