Enchanters didn't charm until PoP dire charm AA

[starkind]

it probably had a 50% hardcoded resist chance in the client cuz thats how they did things

[Fammaden]

I never saw a bard swarm until PoP either, but I chalk it up to so many people being on broadband with shitty computers playing on inconsistent unreliable game servers as much as anything. Everyone was too risk averse to try high risk/high reward strategies rather than go the safe and slower ways.

[starkind]

Yeah or either overlvld and overgeared by an expansion. Then strats like this came into play.

First time I saw druids n bards kiting WW was @ 65 FWiW.

[Jibartik]

I played enchanter to level 12 on rallos zek, anc can confirm that you could charm a person long enough for him to kill his whole group, or his group to kill him, before they nerfed charm in PVP.

So if it worked for that I bet it worked pretty good PVE

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played enchanter to level 12 on rallos zek, anc can confirm that you could charm a person long enough for him to kill his whole group, or his group to kill him, before they nerfed charm in PVP.

So if it worked for that I bet it worked pretty good PVE

And no fungi twinked halfling warriors appeared to pell ur charm n shield bash ur gates.

Hard 2 believe.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played enchanter to level 12 on rallos zek, anc can confirm that you could charm a person long enough for him to kill his whole group, or his group to kill him, before they nerfed charm in PVP.

So if it worked for that I bet it worked pretty good PVE

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And no fungi twinked halfling warriors appeared to pell ur charm n shield bash ur gates.

Hard 2 believe.

Player charming was for less than a year along with player fearing. Glorious times no doubt I only played the tail end of watching people fleeing off kelethin like lunatics. The fear was less of a problem because evil classes were so uncommon (being disgusting evil bastards)

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played enchanter to level 12 on rallos zek, anc can confirm that you could charm a person long enough for him to kill his whole group, or his group to kill him, before they nerfed charm in PVP.

So if it worked for that I bet it worked pretty good PVE

I do think the zeks had the highest concentration of high-G skilla gameplay

[starkind]

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I do think the zeks had the highest concentration of high-G skilla gameplay

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[Bardp1999]

People also leveled slow as shit in 1999 because they didnt know where to go...and honestly charming is not great (even on P99) until higher levels. Charm breaks at a much greater rate pre 50 in my experience.

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People also leveled slow as shit in 1999 because they didnt know where to go...and honestly charming is not great (even on P99) until higher levels. Charm breaks at a much greater rate pre 50 in my experience.

the average person playing everquest in 1999 had a full time job or was a student

the average person playing p99 is completely unemployed

the people i played with, on average, 20 years ago... were much higher caliber, and much more competitive than the kids on P99. On P99 it's assumed that if you dont have mez then you cant do dungeons. I didn't even know what mez was until I was level 55. We made that shit happen one way or another. There was no GMs baby sitting, if someone out-pulled you, your group simply went without. It was a very competitive game by comparison. There was no AFKing half the time while your group carried you.

Also ZEMs make people level way, way, way faster than they are supposed to. As someone who has played on TLP for a little over a week now I can tell you that the ZEMs on P99 are literally game breaking. Makes the game super unfun by forcing players to level in the 3 most boring zones over and over again, but is also ridiculously fast, even by TLP standards, which were intentionally tweaked for casuals.

Leveling 30-45 in a single day of CT and just thinking its because you got better at the game than players 20 years ago is a huge LOL. If you traveled back in time 20 years ago expecting to get similar exp rates then lol. Literally.

My hat goes off to the OGs to hit level 50. There's a reason characters were selling for $5K on ebay. It was no small undertaking, and to try and discredit how hardcore players were 20 years ago is LOL and you are literally rewriting history.