Lent.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fixed that for you

https://youtu.be/GzjYmpwbHEA?t=629

Dont use antivaxer logic.

Religion is history.

Its not fiction.

if you look at all the rules in the torah, they are more akin to keeping you culturally Jewish, than they are keeping you free from any kind of sin.

The first 5 commandments are a moral contract to god, the second 5 are literally how to run an economy. It's a constitution. A bill of rights. I mean he brought it down from the mountain, after he was sick of watching his people dance and screw on stage while drinking cows blood lol his "people" needed a goverment, and in the wildlands in a kingdom with no army, 10,000 years ago, the way to do that is with religion.

for those that hate religion, ask yourself, what is it you hate? I bet the answer is something like: It's not complete information or outright lies, it forces people to do horrible things, and is ignorant of science and the truth.

That's just goverment lol

If you hate religion, you dont hate religion, you hate MAN... you're just using religion as a scapegoat.

Religion is nationalism, without a nation.

It's just politics and culture.

But it is not fiction any more than democrat and republican is.

They all shoot bolts of death from the clouds at the innocent.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/GzjYmpwbHEA?t=629

Dont use antivaxer logic.

Religion is history.

Its not fiction.

if you look at all the rules in the torah, they are more akin to keeping you culturally Jewish, than they are keeping you free from any kind of sin.

The first 5 commandments are a moral contract to god, the second 5 are literally how to run an economy. It's a constitution. A bill of rights. I mean he brought it down from the mountain, after he was sick of watching his people dance and screw on stage while drinking cows blood lol his "people" needed a goverment, and in the wildlands in a kingdom with no army, 10,000 years ago, the way to do that is with religion.

for those that hate religion, ask yourself, what is it you hate? I bet the answer is something like: It's not complete information or outright lies, it forces people to do horrible things, and is ignorant of science and the truth.

That's just goverment lol

If you hate religion, you dont hate religion, you hate MAN... you're just using religion as a scapegoat.

Religion is nationalism, without a nation.

It's just politics and culture.

But it is not fiction any more than democrat and republican is.

They all shoot bolts of death from the clouds at the innocent.

Technically, it's not really about keeping one "Culturally Jewish" because first you have to define "Jewishness" which isn't a monolith.

No one is going to argue that Essenes weren't "Jews" because all of the documentation outlining the cultural identity of the Essenes defines them as "Jewish", yet, the ideological disposition of the Essenes, is inherently different than that of the Pharisees (Levitical Priests), which, again, was entirely different than the ideological disposition of the Saducees (the agnostic branch of their Judicial system, which didn't believe in the metaphysical at all).

So, one cannot simply say "Jewishness" is a monolithic cultural construct, as what defines "Jewishness" to the outside observer varies based on which subdivision one looks at.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Technically, it's not really about keeping one "Culturally Jewish" because first you have to define "Jewishness" which isn't a monolith.

No one is going to argue that Essenes weren't "Jews" because all of the documentation outlining the cultural identity of the Essenes defines them as "Jewish", yet, the ideological disposition of the Essenes, is inherently different than that of the Pharisees (Levitical Priests), which, again, was entirely different than the ideological disposition of the Saducees (the agnostic branch of their Judicial system, which didn't believe in the metaphysical at all).

So, one cannot simply say "Jewishness" is a monolithic cultural construct, as what defines "Jewishness" to the outside observer varies based on which subdivision one looks at.

Its extremely easy to define what a Judean is:

Ju·dae·an
/jo͞oˈdēən,jo͞oˈdāən/
adjective
relating to or characteristic of Judaea, the southern part of ancient Palestine, or its inhabitants.

its in the torah dude, what to pray to, what to eat, how to dress, how to act, how to be a citizen of judeah, its all in the 613 comandments in the torah, you think that is all fake?

read the 10 comandments outloud, 5 are for morality, 5 are for governence. Laws you follow today in your respective countries, they all have those same laws. becaus that's what they are, laws of a goverment. 613 laws of judeah, 10 commandments, your constitution, the bill of rights, it is all. the. same.

[Gwaihir]

You don't even understand the language you're using to convey "information", so back into the trash you go.

[magnetaress]

I feel like modern Christendom in all of it's flavors, even catholicism serves each a niche. Even though it obfuscates, I believe now the source. Not necessarily through malice. But perhaps necessity. Perhaps it is the ladder. Perhaps in our lives man ascends this ladder by learning the truth and restoring it through trial and error. Much like the foundation of life itself.

Not to detract from it. In this life I understand what I understand and I have gleaned or been given some small sense of the truth through this process. I'm not going to say which religions are the coloring books. Or which cater to earthly powers or wealth. But we may in choosing and learning challenge ourselves and know.

For your part, and Jesus's I would say I am eternally grateful in this regard.

I apologize for pontificating. This isn't a time to be apocryphal and heretical. It's not at all my intention.

I read three versions of Exodus 14 today. And learned from each.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't even understand the language you're using to convey "information", so back into the trash you go.

You're so easy to bait. Mindless cultists usually are.

[FatherSioux]

I love when the smart atheist types dismiss all religions, despite the undeniable truth that all of the west is build on a bedrock of Abraham.

[Gwaihir]

Pop exodus 14:2
“Tell the people of Isra’el to turn around and set up camp in front of Pi-Hachirot, between Migdol and the sea, in front of Ba‘al-Tz’fon; camp opposite it, by the sea.
Sh'mot (Exo) 14:2 CJB

https://bible.com/bible/1275/exo.14.2.CJB

And

Genesis 32:3
When Ya‘akov saw them, he said, “This is God’s camp,” and called that place Machanayim [two camps]. Haftarah Vayetze: Hoshea (Hosea) 12:13(12)–14:10(9) (A); 11:7–12:12(11) (S) B’rit Hadashah suggested reading for Parashah Vayetze: Yochanan (John) 1:43–51
B'resheet (Gen) 32:3 CJB

https://bible.com/bible/1275/gen.32.3.CJB

I believe these two verses speak of the same "place". At the Root, if you Will.

Pi-Hachi(Root)

[Gwaihir]

Let the wise understand these things, and let the discerning know them. For the ways of Adonai are straight, And the righteous walk in them, but in them sinners stumble.
Hoshea (Hos) 14:10 CJB

https://bible.com/bible/1275/hos.14.10.CJB

[Gwaihir]

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/art...h-for-vayetze/

That's why Christ called Simon Peter "rock" (Cephas)