Warrior race

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Halfling Warrior is underrated.

Originally Posted by radbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dwarf cultural armor doesn't come out until a month or two before velious release.

Not long now! Farm those components!

[Nagoya]

disclaimer: this is considering you play on Blue99, and are a filthy twink like all of us, and that you are planning to solo a bunch.

this disclaimer is important because if it is not the case, then it doesn't matter at all and the only thing that matters is FashionQuest. (which may still be the case even with the disclaimer btw, all races are very playable; pick your favorite ass to look at)

i played all races of warrior. when i'm done with one i start a new one because i'm dumb. here is my current breakdown in order from strongest to weakest. in parentheses the suggested starting stats.

TIER 1 (min-maxxing)

Ogre (+25 DEX)
pros: front stun immunity, big race (slam), best stats hands down
cons: big race, very common, quite ugly, evil faction

Troll (+20 DEX +3 STR +2 STA)
pros: natural HP regen, big race (slam)
cons: big race, quite ugly, evil faction

TIER 2 (still very good)

Barbarian (+25 DEX)
pros: big race (slam)
cons: blind as fuck, big race

Dwarf (+10 STR +10 STA +5 DEX)
pros: barrel rolls! +5 MR, small race
cons: no slam, ugly Female models w/o barrel rolls

TIER 3 (sure why not)

Halfling (+20 STR +5 STA)
pros: hide & sneak. +5% xp bonus. small race. rounded stats
cons: no slam, ugly as fuck

Iksar (+20 STR +5 STA)
pros: natural HP regen, swimming (100), AC bonus, start on kunark
cons: ugly 2HX animation, can't wear most plate armor, 'very evil' faction

TIER 4 (why)

Half Elf (+20 STR +5 STA)
pros: can choose from many religions, different starting hubs, and different factions
cons: nothing really, just weak stats

Human (+15 STR +10 STA)
pros: can choose from many religions, different starting hubs, and different factions
cons: blind as fuck

Gnome (+25 STR)
pros: wall vision. clockwork armor, small race, tinkering and neutral faction
cons: very weak ass stats for a warrior

TIER 5 (hard mode tryboi)

Wood Elf (+25 STR)
pros: rare, look cute, they have hide and forage
cons: very weak ass stats for a warrior

Dark Elf (+25 STR)
pros: rare, look badass, they have hide and ultravision
cons: very weak ass stats for a warrior, evil faction

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'big race' as a cons is because of all the stupid ducking. as a pros because of Slam.
'small race' a a pros because of the better view/maneuverability and some reduced weight on some armor.

as a Warrior you will probably use a 2HX from level 20 to 46, and not being able to reliably interrupt during these levels sucks a ton, the big races have a huge advantage on every other races because of this (Slam).

but if you can own two very very good 1HX weapons then you can fast switch a Clay Guardian Shield and Bash or something. But this is definitely playing in hard mode for a Warrior (see disclaimer)

i don't put the 'gnome twink' super high personnally, even tho gnome is arguably my favorite race and my gnome warrior was probably the most fun to play, i don't know why people always say the gnome twink with 40% haste is better than sliced bread, i wonder if they have really tried it... i have and this is the ranking i give it. fight me hehe.

TLDR; in your situation and considering both threads and what we know, i would recommend wholeheartedly the Barbarian Warrior.
Unless I am mistaken and you are planning to start this Warrior on Green. If so, then see top-of-post, FashionQuest should be your sole and only concern.

[Zipity]

Iksar warrior has a higher soft and hard cap for AC, also Regen. In velious locked progression it is the true min/max end game.

[Naethyn]

Originally Posted by Zipity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar warrior has a higher soft and hard cap for AC, also Regen. In velious locked progression it is the true min/max end game.

• Iksar has less potential dps than other races https://wiki.project1999.com/Blazing...s_of_Fennin_Ro
• Along with one of the lowest CHA values (the only real stat that we cannot cap in velious end game) https://wiki.project1999.com/Divine_Intervention
• AC is near useless for red con mobs.
• They have the starting stamina of a gnome.
• Iksar cannot use non consumable shrink or invis items. https://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Greaves or https://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Bracer

What about iksars is the true min max?

[Zipity]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

• Iksar has less potential dps than other races https://wiki.project1999.com/Blazing...s_of_Fennin_Ro
• Along with one of the lowest CHA values (the only real stat that we cannot cap in velious end game) https://wiki.project1999.com/Divine_Intervention
• AC is near useless for red con mobs.
• They have the starting stamina of a gnome.
• Iksar cannot use non consumable shrink or invis items. https://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Greaves or https://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Bracer

What about iksars is the true min max?

Warriors are tank defense is more important on raid mobs than offense if you aren’t tanking just swap to a rogue/wizard/cleric.
https://wiki.project1999.com/Do%60Va...tlets_of_Might over those when tanking
CHA can be maxed with an epic/puretone bard easily
Again endgame stamina is easily maxed...you literally talk about cha as an essential min/max stat above.
Shrink pot and invis mask
No other race in the game can have as high AC as an iksar it’s like having an extra high end shield equipped at all times...

Fashion quest, iksars are ugly AF to some and cool to others, I lean toward the first stance and can agree with you on that point. Lol

[Snaggles]

If you are soloing on Blue as a warrior a gnome isn’t “tier 4”. It’s the only class with clicky 40% spell haste arms. That means with silver chitin handwraps you are walking around at 62% haste. With most good worn haste you have 74-76% haste no matter who’s in your group. If with a sham it’s often not worth the conversation; click the arms and keep killing.

Do me a favor. Next time you get alacrity cast on your warrior stop and think “do I want to be able to keep this on forever?”. As a gnome post level 50 it costs about 25p an hour in mana batteries; at 60 about 20p. With a reaver if you can’t get 20p an hour you aren’t trying very hard.

[Nagoya]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are soloing on Blue as a warrior a gnome isn’t “tier 4”. It’s the only class with clicky 40% spell haste arms. That means with silver chitin handwraps you are walking around at 62% haste. With most good worn haste you have 74-76% haste no matter who’s in your group. If with a sham it’s often not worth the conversation; click the arms and keep killing.

Do me a favor. Next time you get alacrity cast on your warrior stop and think “do I want to be able to keep this on forever?”. As a gnome post level 50 it costs about 25p an hour in mana batteries; at 60 about 20p. With a reaver if you can’t get 20p an hour you aren’t trying very hard.

i don't know what to tell you man.
i levelled faster on my troll and barb than the gnome. incl. all that.
have you played both? or you're just throwing numbers?
i love haste as much as the other guy, got a 34% haste-belt and Haste buffs are indeed my favorite buffs to randonly get when i'm soloing on my warriors;
but everything else about the gnome made it slower and more cumbersome than the big races.

i did ask people to fight me tho, so no problem ^^ but i stand by my ranking, clockwork armor or not.

[Naethyn]

Also, this is endgame velious fashion for human warriors.

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[wagorf]

why reroll? u wont find any game changing diff when u switch to another race with bigger sta/str

i have a 60 war myself, i say stick with female wood elf or male/female dark elf (i am none of those races)

i had few hundred k plat to twink my war when i started. the biggest issue, despite my plat and like most wars, is getting nice weapons. i got my weapons from raiding and spending dkp in raiding guild.

ppl always say, just buy loot rights of infestation or willsapper, or VP drops - im telling you now, these people just talk out of their ass - GL spending weeks/months finding people selling loot rights, even if you have the plat (infestation is more likely, forget abt willsapper or VP drops)

it's all about gears

[Jimjam]

Sadly infestation isn’t candy anymore.