95% effective vaccine, what does that mean

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Muchew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you're a bit misinformed about how this impacts young people. I'm 32 and previously would run half marathons, rock climb, and play ice hockey. I've been sick for 8 months and have had several moments where I wasn't sure if I would wake up the next morning. I can't walk to the end of the block and back without feeling like my heart is going to explode. While most young people don't die, the vast majority are not "recovered" and need serious medical support.

I'm sorry to hear that, really. If that is infact a result of having had covid, it's definitely relevant data. I have heard a handful of reports about residual effects, but they don't seem very widespread. The vast majority of young people do not seem to have any residual effects. Many young people have likely already been infected, and recovered, and don't even know they ever had it. Where I live, you can only get tested if you're exhibiting symptoms, so there will inevitably be a pool of people who are infected and literally can't get tested even if they wanted to. I don't doubt that it's possible, but again, it's a cost-benefit analysis. Does this justify the current lockdowns, and the economic and social costs that result? I wish people were talking about that more, but it's just so hopelessly politicized in both directions now. The left thinks it's the plague, and the right thinks it's completely benign.

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by Muchew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you're a bit misinformed about how this impacts young people. I'm 32 and previously would run half marathons, rock climb, and play ice hockey. I've been sick for 8 months and have had several moments where I wasn't sure if I would wake up the next morning. I can't walk to the end of the block and back without feeling like my heart is going to explode. While most young people don't die, the vast majority are not "recovered" and need serious medical support.

Totally not true. While your experience may be a more severe case, I have several friends that had tested positive for covid and had little to no symptoms.

[hobart]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you're not talking to a wall, you're giving bad simple answers and expecting people to just unquestioningly accept them.

I'm not giving answers. The answers I'm giving are the answers of experts. Questioning the consensus of experts when you have nothing to offer but your layman's logic and outlier opinions is futile.

The problem with Trumptards is the same as the problem with the Illiberal Left. When facts come into conflict with their worldview they go shopping for new facts. Two ends of the same horseshoe.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not giving answers. The answers I'm giving are the answers of experts. Questioning the consensus of experts when you have nothing to offer but your layman's logic and outlier opinions is futile.

The problem with Trumptards is the same as the problem with the Illiberal Left. When facts come into conflict with their worldview they go shopping for new facts. Two ends of the same horseshoe.

What are you talking about? I literally said that the world health organization is now saying that lockdowns do more harm than good and do not prevent the virus spreading in any substantial way. The world health organization, presumably, has experts within whatever body deploys it's messaging.

Please do use the word trumptards again, it's super funny every time you say it, and it really bolsters your credibility.

[imperiouskitten]

vaccines are not 100% effective, none of them are oh god why am i even explaining this shit to you turd

[imperiouskitten]

i don't believe it, ur not axeing in goodfaith

[imperiouskitten]

no vaxxes are 100% effective, it's just when you vaxx all with 90% efficacy you reduce the transmission rate below the threshold where it reproduces and the thing dies out.

[Woke Locc]

It means 90% of they/thems who are vaccinated won't get the disease subsequently by other means

U trollin tho 🤪

[Trexller]

you'll have to chain me down in order to inject me with the bill gates nanobot genetic engineering "vaccine"

[Jibartik]

Im about finished with a frontline hour long episode about economic trade with china and it's about how 100% of the things trump did are wrong and 100% of the things Obama did were right.