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Old 01-17-2023, 05:51 PM
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"I stood between the 2 icys at the entrance door to the tower"

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"ran down the ramp in the tower that drops into the water"

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Helsia also exhibits very strange behavior by spawning in 2 different spots instead of one.

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I believe they are both in era, here is some discussion on the Bowl (which only drops from Helsia) in April 2001 here: https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5775

TLDR; Both in era, Helsia perhaps currently incorrectly occupying both spawn spots.
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Old 01-17-2023, 06:17 PM
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Helsia is in era based on what I'm seeing.

Helsia Mindrever Reply... By: gkwey,
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Posted @ Tue, Nov 20th 12:20 PM 2001 Score: Decent[3.00]
This item was dropped last night by Helsia Mindreaver also.

Possibly just at the very end of timeline.

What IS in era dropping "Bowl of Watery Protection" is Elna Kelpweaver who also drops siren hair locket, siren hair earring, spells 55+, and bp gems.

https://web.archive.org/web/20011226...shtml?zone=122

This is December 2001 no Helzia.

I started by assuming Bowl was a unique drop. Did searches on it, checked comments. Looked for dates the items from Mistress and Helzia were added and I found an issue. Bowl of Watery Protection was added early Velious.

I pulled up bestiaries for the zones and found no Helzia, but what I did find was Elna Kelpweaver. Which was in game and dropping Bowl.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020828....shtml?id=7014

I also found information that Helzia in 2003 was spawning at any location a siren could spawn. And another person confirming she was not a PH.

She is not the PH for Mistress Latazura. She spawned in place of a normal siren, and not in the spot where Mistress Latazura normally spawns.
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Old 01-17-2023, 06:37 PM
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First person to post Helsia in Illia's SG page. While the first comment about Helsia I see is Nov 20 2001, the first reference to her on Illia's is March 2002.

As for Elna spawn location: Took a group to the well and she spawned at the top of the stair case in the well.

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Posted @ Fri, Mar 8th 4:10 AM 2002 Score: Default[2.00]
We just finished up in SG tonight and found another named mob right near the Mistress. Her name started w/ a Hel___ something. Conned level 60. Dropped a bow 25/55 war/rang effect: sirens embrace (or something like that). We determined this is a type of snare effect.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020811...shtml?zone=122
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Old 01-17-2023, 07:03 PM
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Elna Kelpweaver is already in game on P99 and I have killed her.

This is the well they are referencing

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Here is the staircase leading up

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And here is where Elna spawns.

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In the times I have killed her, she has dropped nothing besides normal siren loot.
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Old 01-17-2023, 07:10 PM
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TLDR; Helsia shouldn't exist until Nov 2001, bowl of watery protection should be on Elna, and Mistress L should be in the spot Helsia currently is
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Old 01-17-2023, 08:32 PM
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The plot thickens: Fellspine appears to have stopped spawning by Sept 2001

Posted @ Sun, Sep 23rd 3:34 AM 2001 Score: Good[4.00]
My group have been farming Fellspine for months now and since last patch he haven't been spawning anymore. It is highly possible that Fellspine have been removed. It used to spawn below the tower connected by 3 bridges. There is an alcove underwater where a single seahorse is parked there. Very prominent so you can't miss it.

Will need additional research. Found another comment with the same thing...

The story so far:

Elna...

In January/February 2002 Elna's loot included the Bowl of Watery Protection, Siren hair Earring, Siren Hair Locket, BP Gems, 55+ spells. Reportedly a rare spawn that takes 5 days to get. This Mob should be in the game from the Velious release until after the project's timeline. The spawn location has it near the "well" that Prismatica pointed to as its current spawn point, so I think that nearly matches classic comments.

Misstress should be in the game where Helsia is currently spawning. Her drops include Sleeves of the Kelpmaindens, Gloomwater Bow, Lyendlln's Lute, plus BP gems, 55+ spells. It should have a rapid respawn mechanic where upon death it will respawn very quickly sometimes, 50% chance to respawn on death or something.

Helsia: nov 19, 2001 is the Earliest reference I can find for her existing. Judgement call from Devs as to where the project timeline ends. If she is in the game, she is spawning near Misstress.
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Old 01-18-2023, 01:10 AM
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Still mention of drop as of early September 2001, which contradicts the 'months of farming' they spent trying to get him to spawn. Saw some mention of his PH could get stuck, wouldn't get past something like him spawning under world for a time and suiciding 32k on spawn like that one WW dragon did for a while in classic.

Would need more evidence to remove I think, tons of people were confused on where to find him even with people describing where to farm.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...00034330457787
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Uhhh .. I'm not in an Uber guild and we got this just the other day. We got it off of Felspine who isn't really all that hard. Seems a bit tougher than the other sea horses there. We did this with two groups. Sure most of us were 55+ but that still doesn't mean we are in an Uber guild.

And for that matter it doesnt' take an Uber guild to do all these dragons. It just takes a bit of strategy.. some high lvls.. decent gear and teamwork. We have over 30 people easy who are 55+ and we could do Trak with that. I've seen him done with far fewer than 30.. I think I heard the fewest amount was 18 ppl.
Edit: Maybe i misunderstood original poster, saying they have been successfully farming for several months and as of last patch (which would be 9/11/2001) he hasn't seen him spawn since. Will keep on my radar
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Old 01-18-2023, 11:17 AM
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I recommend you make another post if you want to talk about Felspine as it might muddy the discussion and delay any updates to the lute and ML, which I think are very well established in this thread.

Unless the purpose of this thread is the entirety of the SG state on p99, in which case there are many other items we would want to include.
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Old 01-18-2023, 03:21 PM
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I recommend you make another post if you want to talk about Felspine as it might muddy the discussion and delay any updates to the lute and ML, which I think are very well established in this thread.

Unless the purpose of this thread is the entirety of the SG state on p99, in which case there are many other items we would want to include.
I found 3 posts stating it was being farmed past our timeline by a few months, so there is no need for another thread. It wasn't removed in the project's timeline. I think we have all the bases covered to move forward.
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Old 03-17-2023, 01:45 PM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20010619...per/index.html

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Added Lyendiln's Lute to the Music Room. You guys better get your guilds to Siren's Grotto, there's about 4 or 5 nice instruments that have dropped in there now!
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