The player-moderated Ancient Cyclops list is a disaster.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by galach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys should just come to a player agreement that the player needs to be waiting there instead of just signing up for a list & not having to have a presence.

it owns that the staff want players to make "player agreements" for every conflict camp without ever actually creating a process for doing that, or a place for players to find out such an agreement exists.

[Cawin]

Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it owns that the staff want players to make "player agreements" for every conflict camp without ever actually creating a process for doing that, or a place for players to find out such an agreement exists.

I would state less critical, but yes. Intent of the hosted list.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Cawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would state less critical, but yes. Intent of the hosted list.

not everyone on p99 knows about your random website. not everyone on p99 speaks english for that matter. this shit should be on project1999.com. it should be ingame. if the staff expects these agreements to work, some random dude should not be running this at all.

this was exactly the same problem we had with 8th rings on blue. i literally did jimjam's dumb ringbarron suggestion. we still ended up having people roll up not knowing there was an agreement to know about, and just turning in.

[Albanwr]

Originally Posted by galach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys should just come to a player agreement that the player needs to be waiting there instead of just signing up for a list & not having to have a presence.

[Danth]

if I read the original post correctly then the O.P. got the camp he wanted and nearly his entire annoyance stems from voluntarily attempting to do a job he didn't have to do in the first place. Is the Ancient Cyclops camp on Green treated differently by GMs than other camps? I've never maintained somebody else's list in going on 11 years playing P99. Too much fuss to bother with that; lists suck for all the reasons the original poster seems to have recently discovered.

Danth

[beh]

if I read the original post correctly then the O.P. got the camp he wanted and nearly his entire annoyance stems from voluntarily attempting to do a job he didn't have to do in the first place. Is the Ancient Cyclops camp on Green treated differently by GMs than other camps? I've never maintained somebody else's list in going on 11 years playing P99. Too much fuss to bother with that; lists suck for all the reasons the original poster seems to have recently discovered.

In the context of the situation, I had 2 or more people who were clearly grouped and knew each other, and were also both the two previous list holders and ring-looters, remaining at the spawn when they should have left, and arguing with me for the 15-20 minutes that it took for the next person to show up that I didn't have the right to wipe the list. I told them that I did not WANT to wipe the list, but I have the right to do so, and because I extended that courtesy instead of just shitting all over everyone, I expected they would be cool about it. They were NOT cool about it, and then violated the very rules they were SO vigilant in being SO literal about to my detriment, by not even clearing the people that were offline, and just moving the next person up to #1 instead... and you think this was an isolated incident? I'm sure it happens every single day. People looking out for their pals, and the edit history is anonymous, so there's no accountability. There's a reason why it takes 2 weeks to get through the list, because people do whatever the hell they want with it.

[kauvian]

Originally Posted by galach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys should just come to a player agreement that the player needs to be waiting there instead of just signing up for a list & not having to have a presence.

This seems like such a good idea!

[beh]

Originally Posted by kauvian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This seems like such a good idea!

One more time for the people in the back

[beh]

If you would like names of the people mentioned in my post that moved #40something to #1 this morning, I'd be happy to share, since your awesome auditing didn't catch that today.

[Cawin]

Originally Posted by beh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you would like names of the people mentioned in my post that moved #40something to #1 this morning, I'd be happy to share, since your awesome auditing didn't catch that today.

No need. I can see it all. I don't audit or revert or unless needed (same with others). I saw your situation going on this morning, but still have made no attempt to unpack it as others generally have more bandwidth and will report what's needed. I like to let the players involved reach their agreement in a player agreement situation. I have not the time nor authority to instill policy changes on it. It's simply a tool to assist in what people were already doing.