Bard Epic is stupid rare

[xdrcfrx]

just add white scales and green scales to the appropriate dragons in ToV. Put white scales on the loot table for Jorl and Goz, and green scales on the loot table for...I dunno, zlex and maybe fesh?

If red scales can be obtained from Ragefire, then it's not unreasonable to maybe make green and white scales more accessible as well.

[Nibblewitz]

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just add white scales and green scales to the appropriate dragons in ToV. Put white scales on the loot table for Jorl and Goz, and green scales on the loot table for...I dunno, zlex and maybe fesh?

If red scales can be obtained from Ragefire, then it's not unreasonable to maybe make green and white scales more accessible as well.

Screw it, if we aren’t going to be classic, throw them on the ww dragons. They’re closer in difficulty to vox. Maybe give them to Roland too in wl. Poor wyrm must think there is something wrong with him.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Screw it, if we aren’t going to be classic, throw them on the ww dragons. They’re closer in difficulty to vox. Maybe give them to Roland too in wl. Poor wyrm must think there is something wrong with him.

I mean, the idea is to increase availability without necessarily making it trivial to obtain. Acting like blue is still some purely classic experience in year...6?...of velious, with rooted dragons and clickie nerfs, seems weird to me. Blue is already selectively classic. We're not talking cats on the moon here.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, the idea is to increase availability without necessarily making it trivial to obtain. Acting like blue is still some purely classic experience in year...6?...of velious, with rooted dragons and clickie nerfs, seems weird to me. Blue is already selectively classic. We're not talking cats on the moon here.

It drops from a mob you can kill with a dozen 52s. It’s already trivial. The problem with adding the scale to TOV is it turns white scale into ‘free pixels’ as those dragons are already killed on spawn, and furthermore it makes the game smaller as it removes incentive to bother with gore and vox.

While I like the idea of ToV as a shitsump for basement dwellers, I think it is important there are motivations to step outside for other pixels. This is why I suggest adding the loot to white dragons in WW and WL. They are no more trivial than vox, and it will motivate players to engage with otherwise underused content.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It drops from a mob you can kill with a dozen 52s. It’s already trivial. The problem with adding the scale to TOV is it turns white scale into ‘free pixels’ as those dragons are already killed on spawn, and furthermore it makes the game smaller as it removes incentive to bother with gore and vox.

While I like the idea of ToV as a shitsump for basement dwellers, I think it is important there are motivations to step outside for other pixels. This is why I suggest adding the loot to white dragons in WW and WL. They are no more trivial than vox, and it will motivate players to engage with otherwise underused content.

That's reasonable, so apologies if I misunderstood. Vox, like a lot of raid targets, is challenging because of the meta and raid environment which requires FTE very quickly to get the kill, more so than because of the difficulty of the encounter itself. Gore is a legitimately difficult encounter since the push-to-interrupt nerf, though.

IMO it would be reasonable if green and white scales dropped off of *something* that was a 3-day spawn as opposed to a 7-day spawn, or off of additional 7-day spawns, which is why I suggested ToV dragons. WW dragons that respawn every 8 hours would maybe be *too* common. Maybe add the ancient warders to ST (I know, I know - not classic because out of timeline) and put scales on their loot tables? I don't know. Just bandying about ideas.

[Christina.]

The mage epic isn't really hard to get it's just guilds move on from hate so fast soon as sky /kunark comes out...

[Gozuk]

I think a Vox roation would be a cool thing to do for some of the bards that maybe don't want to jump ship just for epic.

Not saying the only way to have a shot at killing her is to be in Riot or anything like that, I understand any guild can at least make an effort to compete, but I think sometimes we forget just how much players on P99 vary as far as play time goes.

[Arkanjil]

I've heard WW white dragons drop white scales

[totmanc]

The solution is simple: Nortlov the Scalekeeper, 33%chance for White, Red and Green scales. would actually solve all the issues.