Maximum Platinum and P1999

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Mardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those aqua goblins weren't added until luclin or pop. Stop making suggestions if you didn't play during classic.

Ah, well that explains that.

I apologize for not having known of every possible leveling spot when I was leveling up during kunark and not knowing that this didn't get added in until Luclin.

I figured when I finally did find out about them that they had just been a well kept secret.

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no way you can kite 8 at once efficiently unless you found some way of AE kiting giant-sized mobs.

Also I did some stats on this and Bards at level 50 killed seafuries about 2/3 the speed of mages, which is respectable, and nothing to complain over.

Anything over 4 and you really start to lose efficiency because you can't keep both chants on all of them too reliably. It took about 20 minutes to down all 8 though, and I think that's a pretty decent number. That was actually part of an epic kite of about 11 or 12 non-stop that lasted a little over a half hour. Never claimed it was efficient, was meant to show how people complain about something no matter what you're doing. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your stats don't really mean much.

[Harrison]

The benefit to kiting them like that though is no competition. (besides KSing)

You may kill them slower but you will be guaranteed those 8. You can't always be guaranteed 8 in 20ish minutes depending on competition.

I would sometimes pull 3 and kite one around just to keep them to myself.

[gnomishfirework]

Originally Posted by Harrison

The benefit to kiting them like that though is no competition. (besides KSing)

You may kill them slower but you will be guaranteed those 8. You can't always be guaranteed 8 in 20ish minutes depending on competition.

I would sometimes pull 3 and kite one around just to keep them to myself.

So, you're an asshole? Thanks for letting everyone know.

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The next day I'm kiting 8 seafuries at once killing 8 faster than he could ever dream of

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It took about 20 minutes to down all 8 though, and I think that's a pretty decent number.

These two are contradictory. You claim you killed 8 faster than a mage could dream of, then state you killed them in 20 minutes? I can go through 4 - 5 per spawn cycle (6min40sec). In 20 minutes? Even with 3-4 people competition, I'm looking at least a dozen kills. So how exactly is your killing 66% of what I kill in equal time faster than I could ever dream of? Which leads me to my next quote...

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You may kill them slower but you will be guaranteed those 8. You can't always be guaranteed 8 in 20ish minutes depending on competition.

I would sometimes pull 3 and kite one around just to keep them to myself.

Even when there are 5-6 people on the island, you can't kill 8 in 20 minutes? Not to turn this into RnF material, but seriously need to learn Seafuries a little better, at least if you're a mage. If you're a non mage class I understand, but locking down two static spawns at 6min40sec is 6 per 20 alone, add in tagging some fluctuating static spawns and if you can't speed tag at least 2 of those per 20 you're doing something wrong.

Moral of the story, learn SF spawn points. Then learn to tag+kite while your pet finishes one off so you have one already lined up. Then learn to buddy up with every single other person on the island in a concerted effort to lockdown every SF spawn whenever there is a Bard/Druid on the island in order to drive them away. I'm sorry but I just laugh everytime I watch a Bard or Druid lock up a spawn point for 10+ minutes while they do their dots and sit, or dots and run around bard speed (and good luck swarm kiting since SFs have a life expectancy of 2 minutes when there are Mages+Necros on isle).

[Harrison]

Kraft, I'm not saying I ever had problems killing them. I'm saying that from McBard's view.

I was killing seafuries when you were still nailing snakes in nektulos. I've never had a problem killing them, or competing for them.

[Pico]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was killing seafuries when you were still nailing snakes in nektulos.

quoted for posterity

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

words..

What druid would use dots to kill a single seafury, when he can quad 4 from 100% to 0% in 90sec? Followed by 5-6min of medding lol. If you were up against druids that dot/rotted SF's u were up against some bad druids imo. Maybe im more of an instant gratification type of person, but sitting there while dots eat away on a mob, while mana efficient, is terribly boring to me. I always quadded SF's when i was there, and i averaged about 1k/hr

[Ennoia]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is important.

Another thing that might help out, especially if you plan on getting to end game is making wise investments. Stop spending 1k every 5 levels to buy better and better droppable gear, especially now with Kunark out, unless it's something that's going to remain at a fixed price and is best in slot for your class. Make wise investments. On my main I've spent approximately 2k in gear (my 2 rings and a couple armor pieces I got at a discount and later sold and profited from). Everything else is no droppable planar gear, and before that it was quested, not paid for, Lambent, which when sold made me a couple thousand platinum. Try to find deals on items you buy, don't buy rare kunark loot for 120k the week it comes out, when it's going to stabilize at 6-8k a month down the road. If you can, don't even buy it, go farm it and save yourself a lot of money. Try to be the person on the other side of that equation. I shudder to think of just how much plat the TR members that lived in crypt for the first couple of weeks made, but if they had held on to that stuff and sold it now it would be worth far less. Even if you need an item, if it's currently way over value I've considered selling it and just rebuying it later for a lot cheaper.

Try to buy things that are only going to go up in price. Things that no longer drop are a very wise investment. I've spent well over 5x what I've spent on my own gear on wr bags that will never go down in price, and items that no longer drop but are sought after.

I would say that between making smart investments, farming items every now and then, and just playing the market anybody with a high level character should be able to bank a lot of plat just over the course of adventuring.

Also, don't waste money equipping alts. My alts have either been given items (which I don't sell, just for principle) or I have quested them no droppable quest items that are good for their class. Once they're 46 they'll just get planar rot anyway.

Edit: This was really way to long of a post. It can best be summed up by saying: use simple business sense, and the more time you put in, the more platinum you're ultimately going to get out.

Ehhh, if you know how to make cash, equipping alts is fun. Aside from my Magician, I had (have? idk I don't play anymore) 3 fully geared alts with close to everything BiS (at that time) and 2 fully geared characters for friends, while still having more cash than I know what to do with.

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One day I'm doing seafuries for exp and some mage is sending me tells with something akin to "lol kill them already! damn bards!". The next day I'm kiting 8 seafuries at once killing 8 faster than he could ever dream of (grats medding and failing) and the same mage tells me "you've been reported greedy asshole".

Avoid that place like the plague man.

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Xping at Seafuries is a retard move. There's also no way you could kill 8 at once faster than a Magician. Fuck I got bored and was duoing with a Bard one night and it was actually slower than when I was soloing. Magicians who need to med are doing it wrong.

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anything over 4 and you really start to lose efficiency because you can't keep both chants on all of them too reliably. It took about 20 minutes to down all 8 though, and I think that's a pretty decent number. That was actually part of an epic kite of about 11 or 12 non-stop that lasted a little over a half hour. Never claimed it was efficient, was meant to show how people complain about something no matter what you're doing. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your stats don't really mean much.

20 minutes for 8 is actually really slow.

If you really want cash, farm AC for...well as long as you can tolerate it. Bind at camp, keep ring in a top inventory slot, kill yourself after he's dead (takes like3 seconds), rinse and repeat until you're rich.

[Lazortag]

The next day I'm kiting 8 seafuries at once killing 8 faster than he could ever dream of (grats medding and failing) and the same mage tells me "you've been reported greedy asshole".

Never claimed it was efficient, ...

Seems like you did. And like everybody said, there is no way you were killing them "faster than he could ever dream of".

What's hilarious is that you should be able to kill seafuries at the same rate without locking up 8 spawns at once (just by using charm/dots), yet you wonder why someone would call you greedy for choosing the method that's more douchey, yet equally efficient. Maybe it wasn't worth reporting you but you have to admit it was greedy, and served no purpose but to deny other people of spawns.