Warrior - FSI is dope

[Dogma]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, they're the worst Shaman race.

Iksar only shaman race pretty enough to not have to hide ugly mug as a bear.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Dogma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar only shaman race pretty enough to not have to hide ugly mug as a bear.

FashionQuest is subjective, and if you like the look of Iksar Shaman (or Human Monks, or Half-Elf Wizards, or whatever else) I say that's one of the most important things to consider ... more important than any specific detail of the game (you'll be staring at that character for their entire in-game life!) ... and you should run with it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But if we're looking at it objectively, "by the numbers", an Iksar Shaman is just a Troll Shaman who can't use the JBB.

[Kirdan]

Originally Posted by Dogma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar is best everything.

You misspelled worst.

[Philistine]

Originally Posted by Kirdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You misspelled worst.

I definitely don't have an opinion on most of this thread, as I'm a noob, but this made me lol.

[Arvan]

My barb warrior has been 60 for some years now and i was able to max 255 strength/stamina/dexterity with buffs a long time ago. Shorty races may take a bit more effort for str/sta but its really not that hard with lvl 60 shaman buffs. At the very endgame you are gearing for +100 hp items and MR

[Naethyn]

Endgame velious warrior only needs CHA, and ogre has the lowest.

[Dogma]

JBB is less efficient than just root rotting 3-4 mobs at a time and letting your epic clicky do its thing.

Numbers get weighted even worse against JBB when you consider Torpor and higher dmg DoTs.

JBB is gimpy crutch for bad shamans. Never too late to reroll as iksar.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Dogma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

JBB is less efficient than just root rotting 3-4 mobs at a time and letting your epic clicky do its thing.

Numbers get weighted even worse against JBB when you consider Torpor and higher dmg DoTs.

JBB is gimpy crutch for bad shamans. Never too late to reroll as iksar.

I'll just let this ignorant post speak for itself [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Iksar remain the worst choice (on paper, min/max, mechanically) of all Shaman races*

*in this era of the game

[Dogma]

I'd suggest you give root rotting a try and get good at it so you can compare the two methods before calling my post ignorant.

Can kill twice as many mobs in the same amount of time as a JBB shaman and still maintain mana and health (probably easier).

The only real argument is that perhaps Ogre shamans with FSI can park their butts in a corner and tank a hard to root mob but they're probably not using JBB doing that in the upper end of things either.

[Baler]

For warrior, that FSI can mean another swing on a raid mob, which can mean another proc on that raid mob which then in turn means it's not turning around beating the hell out of your rogue dps line.

I've seen non-ogres get stunned and the raid mob turns around and start kicking the shit out of that one rogue who never uses evade.
Then everyone panics, the non-ogre warrior becomes unstunned and pops a clickie to regain agro, lol..

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Endgame velious warrior only needs CHA, and ogre has the lowest.

Didn't they reduce the chance for this to proc and that's why people are kinda eh about it.?
That's the biggest reason I recommend DEX over CHA. Unless you know better than I, being you got a pretty dope tank.