Green UN agreement?

[uygi]

I heard the same. Can't blame them, p99 raid scene has always been shitty in one way or another. I tried TLP once and it was not a fun game, just a silly hampster wheel.

[drackgon]

Yeah what Tiffany said. Heard Tatekai and Kbazz left for TLP. Also their DKP and main healer cleric is gone as well. This is just rumors, but will say everyone knows I <3 Lineage and enjoyed messing with them...a lot.

P99 raiding is for sure interesting. Seems a pool of people who want to experience things they never got to, with people who enjoy raiding with friends, and finally those who just like to watch the world burn[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[ClephNote]

I'm curious... what would the optimal raiding scene look like? We did might makes right, trains r fun, GM babysitting and finally created a UN and rotation.

Since it's always "shitty" I'm genuinely curious what would be fair/good/fun/positive look like? Outside of instancing or reduction of population by 75%, I'm not sure what could be done. It's an old nostalgia game and our bads would stomp Furor/Tigole/Thott in knowledge, strategies and execution. So, how do you make most people happy?

I'd like most people to be happy!

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by ClephNote [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious... what would the optimal raiding scene look like? We did might makes right, trains r fun, GM babysitting and finally created a UN and rotation.

There's no rotation on the real raid targets, everything rotated (even Maestro and Phinny when you really break down the difficulty) are fast spawning trash from end game zones. The big names, Inny/CT/Draco/Vox/Nag, are all still poopsocked window camping shitfests.

We also know straight from Galach that he proposed a bag limit system to green UN and the idea was roundly rejected by ST.

[Jungleberry]

Originally Posted by ClephNote [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious... what would the optimal raiding scene look like? We did might makes right, trains r fun, GM babysitting and finally created a UN and rotation.

Since it's always "shitty" I'm genuinely curious what would be fair/good/fun/positive look like? Outside of instancing or reduction of population by 75%, I'm not sure what could be done. It's an old nostalgia game and our bads would stomp Furor/Tigole/Thott in knowledge, strategies and execution. So, how do you make most people happy?

I'd like most people to be happy!

Get rid of socking. The game is 21 years old and all the fat nerds are still just sitting outside waiting for shit to spawn for 12 hours. Real fun.

[ClephNote]

Originally Posted by Jungleberry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get rid of socking. The game is 21 years old and all the fat nerds are still just sitting outside waiting for shit to spawn for 12 hours. Real fun.

Are you recommending removing variance from respawn timers, so everyone knows that CT spawns at noon on Tuesday, for example, making it an FTE race for everyone that's available at noon on Tuesday? The last couple of weeks, there has been almost 200 people socking 7 day spawns. They weren't all Seal Team.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by ClephNote [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you recommending removing variance from respawn timers, so everyone knows that CT spawns at noon on Tuesday, for example, making it an FTE race for everyone that's available at noon on Tuesday? The last couple of weeks, there has been almost 200 people socking 7 day spawns. They weren't all Seal Team.

You could also just go the other way, increase the spawn rates and lock people out of getting loot from that mob for a week.

[billcrystals]

Originally Posted by ClephNote [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why doesn't DMO count? They are a guild of allies and pals. Literally three of them raid regularly with ST and they maintain their DMO tags and they are more competitive than some of the smaller guilds in the UN.

To my knowledge, there is no cross guild tagging going on, and even if there were, would that be bad? I have to assume that there are people in multiple guilds now. It's more likely that there is a Kingdom player in ST than a DMO player. So, what's the problemo, amigo?

I've been on this server for like 2 months and I've already seen DMO: troll Tranix/the UN for weeks, say racist shit in the UN Discord, and just in general act like a bunch of teenagers on here.

They can be whatever kind of guild they want, but it's not the kind of behavior I want to be associated with as a grown ass man playing this game in 2020. Given the aspirations of what the UN is attempting to do/be, I think catering to behavior like that definitely hollows out some credibility.

I'm willing to give DMO another shot no doubt, but first impressions and all that.

[Jungleberry]

Originally Posted by ClephNote [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you recommending removing variance from respawn timers, so everyone knows that CT spawns at noon on Tuesday, for example, making it an FTE race for everyone that's available at noon on Tuesday? The last couple of weeks, there has been almost 200 people socking 7 day spawns. They weren't all Seal Team.

I'm suggesting people learn to rotate as the vast majority of servers did in classic.

[billcrystals]

The UN took a huge credibility hit by letting DMO in, but it's still the best way to regulate/distribute such limited content among a wide group of players. The alternative of just FFA anarchy is worse for everyone IMO.