Popular Camp Rules On Non Lore Drops

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would guess that this “ruling” would be applied only to the extremely popular big ticket item camps like the AC.

I'm just a player, but ... in the entire time I've played here I've never even heard of a GM ruling based on an item's popularity or EC price. To the contrary, whenever it comes to adjudication the staff has always treated the level 20 guy trying to get some item worth 20 plat identically to two level 60s fighting over a Throne mob in PoM. They very much do seem to want the same rules to apply to everyone, regardless of how important (or not) those players might feel they are.

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That gatorscale leggings camp is rough, and you always end up with a bunch of unwanted sleeves. But have you tried camping the gatorscale tunic? It's so rare, I am not sure if it is ever gonna drop, but I will keep looting gatorscale leggings and sleeves until I get my tunic!

LOL keep trying Jimjam! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[cd288]

I mean, that comment in the camp section has to come from somewhere so it has to have happened before. Just inconsistently applied in terms of whether staff would apply it

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, that comment in the camp section has to come from somewhere so it has to have happened before. Just inconsistently applied in terms of whether staff would apply it

It came from a dispute regarding OOT AC (Ancient Cyclops). As with any camp ruling, we players can try and extrapolate larger conclusions from it ... but there's no way to know for sure those extrapolations are correct (even though Derubael seemingly said as much) until someone actually /petitions over the other AC (Ancient Crocodile).

And even then, the ruling could change between GMS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I think "inconsistently applied" is something the staff themselves would agree with you on ... but they see it as a feature not a bug.

To issue perfectly consistent rulings all the time they'd need to use (and maintain) a giant "book of rulings". That would be asking even more of our already overworked (and 100% volunteer) staff, so having inconsistent rulings ... but more volunteer time dedicated to helping us ... seems like the better option.

[Snortles Chortles]

Loramin tells you, Hey!! I see you looted a cracked staff from that decaying skeleton, so please move along away from the camp because I’m entitled to a cracked staff now and you remaining here is problematic to my elf XP needs.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Snortles Chortles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin tells you, Hey!! I see you looted a cracked staff from that decaying skeleton, so please move along away from the camp because I’m entitled to a cracked staff now and you remaining here is problematic to my elf XP needs.

The camp rules are not meant to decide every interaction on the server; they're meant to resolve disputes. Everyone else in this thread except you seems to understand that ... what does that say about you?

[Snortles Chortles]

You’re advocating for players losing camps they legally own. I disagree with your sentiment.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Snortles Chortles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’re advocating for players losing camps they legally own. I disagree with your sentiment.

No, I'm explaining the system (that the volunteer staff themselves created) for resolving camp disputes.

If you're an asshole who feels the need to create a dispute over a decaying skeleton drop that's on you: don't try to pin it on me, or as some kind of problem with the staff's rules.

And also, as I keep trying to emphasize, NONE OF THIS IS SET IN STONE (except the PnP). Just try petitioning about your decaying skeleton, and see what the staff member decides when they show up. I'm guessing they will not be amused at you wasting their time.

[drackgon]

Rules are rules, if someone gets the item they farmed. And another player is there and contesting. The contesting player gets it. This is why when you get to a camp, ask for the list SS it. So if their some horrid bad troll, who tries to change said list 6 hours later. You have proof. Congrats camp is yours. Enjoy your adventure

P.S. to Snortles, I believe the rules is for any special camp, IE if it drops an item unique to it or a hand few of mobs. Not something that is common drop shared between 100 of mobs. Btw Snortles did you get banned and make a new account(I remember you pre green as fellow SK talks alot.)

[Snortles Chortles]

What’s the point of farming named mobs, if elves can be strong armed into losing the camp because it’s random MuHHHh Gatorlegs turn!!!?

**l Put the SK on the shelf to play NEC with my friend.

[Gridley]

Ya, I dunno how I feel about this rule applying to ALL camps. I see no realistic way to enforce in non-lore camps without completely wasting the staff's time.

But for LORE item camps, I can totally get onboard with it as long as the "no corpse storing the item to thus continue camping" part. Otherwise, if one were to try to apply this to non-lore item camps such as the ancient croc, I can only foresee lots of mistrust and /petition thinking someone is lying when they claim they haven't got any "gatorscale legs yet" after 12 hours, which is a real possibility.