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KansasComrade · #1 05-14-2020, 10:01 AM

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Second amendment? Supreme court appointments? The only president who dares tell the truth about china's constant bullshit/conartistry? Checks on third world immigration to a country where there is already burgeoning economic inequalities with an ever increasing underclass? Pro american instead of pro globalist foreign trade?

Trump may be a narcissistic, ill tempered lout but he still has most of the important shit right.

Yeah, look at how the underclass is BOOMING under Trump now.

gherron · #2 05-14-2020, 10:17 AM

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The only president who dares tell the truth about china's constant bullshit/conartistry? Checks on third world immigration to a country where there is already burgeoning economic inequalities with an ever increasing underclass? Pro american instead of pro globalist foreign trade?

What exactly is being done about the US inequalities? Also am I incorrect in thinking that "pro globalist foreign trade" is primarily referring to China? If so, China doesn't seem threatened by Trump at all. In fact they seem to be gaining more influence globally even with the coronavirus going on.

Kich867 · #3 05-14-2020, 10:32 AM

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Second amendment? Supreme court appointments? The only president who dares tell the truth about china's constant bullshit/conartistry? Checks on third world immigration to a country where there is already burgeoning economic inequalities with an ever increasing underclass? Pro american instead of pro globalist foreign trade?

Trump may be a narcissistic, ill tempered lout but he still has most of the important shit right.

I suppose this is the basic gap in why I am not interested in Trump--I respect that those issues are concerns of yours, but at a high level they just aren't for me or are issues that I don't align with.

I see the consequences of those things as net-negatives and putting America further behind the rest of the world and I struggle to see how he is pro-America. Or maybe it's just that there's a difference between pro-America and being pro-Americans.

CreamyCowboy · #4 05-14-2020, 11:23 AM

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Second amendment? Supreme court appointments? The only president who dares tell the truth about china's constant bullshit/conartistry? Checks on third world immigration to a country where there is already burgeoning economic inequalities with an ever increasing underclass? Pro american instead of pro globalist foreign trade?

Trump may be a narcissistic, ill tempered lout but he still has most of the important shit right.

Telling the truth about china and immigration and gun rights are the most important shit? Lol.

BlackBellamy · #5 05-14-2020, 11:30 AM

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why this? you can DM me. Just curious why you think that, because from my PoV an empty chair would be a better President than Trump

Your PoV is being informed by liars. You consume their opinions masked as "reporting" because you live in a high-trust society that values conformity and obedience (i.e. most modern nations) and you could not imagine an entire industry that has built up trust, reliability and accuracy over decades and decades suddenly pivoting towards distribution of propaganda.

I work in media and advertising so I will explain because I've watched it happen. At some time in the recent past media organizations figured that news could be monetized, and monetized hard. It used to be that news was a loss leader. It was a status thing; executives received awards and everyone was so impressed with Murrow and Cronkite. But news never made money because no one wanted to pay top dollar to have their box of Corn Flakes be shown after graphic images of a murder victim. Enter cable news. Two things happened. One is that media companies found that it was way more profitable to market to partisans instead of the general audience. The general audience comes and goes, they tune in for the big stories and tune out otherwise. But the partisans can be milked. They're passionate and will watch all day. The second thing that happened is that media companies learned they could just lie. Like literally just make stuff up with almost no consequences. During the past several decades US courts have established that public figures basically can't sue you for lying about them. I mean yeah there's some exceptions, but when this happens it's so rare it becomes news itself (See The Hulkster vs Gawker). You have to show it was done intentionally and with malice and that's almost impossible to prove because oops we made an error.

You would think this only affects hyper-partisan sources like FOX or MSNBC but you would be terribly wrong. The media world is small; people know each other and they move around and they take their habits and expectations and ethics with them. It's everywhere now.

You are being lied to and manipulated, and the worst thing is that it's not being done for a higher purpose, it's literally just for the money. We have data scientists who we easily pay six figures who do nothing but provide us with marketing segmentation. We know everything about you including the Pavlovian response to whatever outrage we generate. Do you know that people who are angry respond very well to certain type of advertising? We know because data tells us so. We can publish a story with some angry headline about how Obama is going to rape you and we can guarantee a higher click-through on the ads on that page vs. some tame story about the next caucus date in Iowa.

I know everything I wrote above is 100% true because as a result of these lies and manipulation, there are still a great great many people on earth who say ridiculous things like "an empty chair would be a better President than Trump" or "I'm going to vote for Biden", when it's apparent the man is suffering from dementia and has absolutely no internal energy and cannot excite anyone about anything (also zero executive experience, no management skills, zero leadership ability, and well...no plan).

President Trump has killed less US servicemen than any other president in my lifetime. He has presided over the greatest economy in my life as well. He has correctly identified China as the greatest threat to world unity and cooperation. He works longer hours than any other president. No one since Reagan has so connected with the American people. No one can match his energy. He has survived relentless attacks unlike any other executive in recent history and has weathered them all. Regardless of whether you think Trump should be grabbing your wife by the pussy, these claims are indisputable. Still you prefer an empty chair.

Do you think Americans are stupid? Do you think the nation that invented nuclear power and landed on the moon and mars six hundred times and sent a convertible on a galactic voyage and leads the earth in innovation and technology suddenly turned into a nation of dolts who elected the most corrupt and evil and lazy and stupid man to lead the country?

Do you really think that is even remotely possible? I suggest you're being lied to. I mean I know you're being lied to, I guess what I'm suggesting is you have a habit of believing stuff. You should stop that.

CreamyCowboy · #6 05-14-2020, 11:50 AM

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