Sebilis Solo Dungeon Crawl - Melee

[kjs86z]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol @ the monk tunnel vision in this thread. A bis pally will win out on any named vs a monk if FD isn’t an absolute requirement.

Would be curious to see a time trial between BiS monk and BiS pally on the same set of clickies.

Pick a named mob. Start at given dungeon's zone-in.

Start stopwatch at first spell / pull (calm / jav), timer stops when named mob is dead.

Obviously this would require said dungeon to be empty. Could be done as a live race too if you had two identical copy servers of blue with the ability to create gear out of thin air.

I just don't see the paladin being able to keep up.

[Trexller]

well geared monk or SK can do it. Both classes will require great gear.

SK will be slower, but will get you there.

Why not buy things like pumice stones or kilvas skin of flame? They are in the game, for players to use to their advantage. This is their intended use.

You're only less of a solo artist if you have another player buffing you

[Bbeta]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're only less of a solo artist if you have another player buffing you

You're not a solo artist with other players buffs imo.

Im not trying to discredit previous solo challenges but they all were done with some sort of assistance or another.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Bbeta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're not a solo artist with other players buffs imo.

Im not trying to discredit previous solo challenges but they all were done with some sort of assistance or another.

ok yeah if someones buffing you, you aren't a solo artist, you're being PL'd at lvl 60!

[Pint]

I've solo'd around seb on my paladin and I'd take the monk

[ChooChoo Train]

Does bard count as a melee?

[zati]

depends where you wanna crawl to and camp stuff? melee only huh? Monk or SK with uber gear and clickies can kill fungi king(Ive done on sk) no other melee class can come close. If it's crawling to ABC or Disco or Crypt - add pally and bard as choices. whichever class you pick it won't be easy and requires really good gear esp if it's self-buff only

[Atmas]

Soloed around Seb plenty on my Paladin, if calm fails you have Root. I have 5500 hpts and 1600 AC self buffed. I have enough mana to heal myself with HoTs for like 12k. That doesn't count include Lay Hands or clickies like Soulfire. Primal and Vulak Axe/Tunare Sword/Great Spear of Dawn do pretty good damage. Sword and Board or swap in epic for bashes + paly stuns make dealing with casters a lot easier than most other melee.

I know I can solo any of the crypt bosses. I can't really recall if I bothered with much of the other stuff, I usually go solo NG or the other bugs as something I can do while I do other stuff in rl between spawns.

I would imagine a SK is very capable as well. A well equipped monk can do pretty well and FD is awesome but at certain point hpt recovery will be much slower for a monk than a paladin. So in a race FD would let you skip a lot of stuff but it depends on the ruleset.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Soloed around Seb plenty on my Paladin, if calm fails you have Root. I have 5500 hpts and 1600 AC self buffed. I have enough mana to heal myself with HoTs for like 12k. That doesn't count include Lay Hands or clickies like Soulfire. Primal and Vulak Axe/Tunare Sword/Great Spear of Dawn do pretty good damage. Sword and Board or swap in epic for bashes + paly stuns make dealing with casters a lot easier than most other melee.

I know I can solo any of the crypt bosses. I can't really recall if I bothered with much of the other stuff, I usually go solo NG or the other bugs as something I can do while I do other stuff in rl between spawns.

I would imagine a SK is very capable as well. A well equipped monk can do pretty well and FD is awesome but at certain point hpt recovery will be much slower for a monk than a paladin. So in a race FD would let you skip a lot of stuff but it depends on the ruleset.

monks can bw to 70% and mend, i dont think they will have any issues out pacing a paladin. even them regaining hp sitting down is faster then us trying to med back up. also their dps at the top end still trumps avatar and vulak axe in my experience. i think we can kill anything they can kill at this point now that they cant use soulfire, but they are still always going to do it better, especially with worts. in my experience if i really want to kill something i use one of my monks instead of my paladin but my paladin is 300hp and 100ac worse off then yours self buffed. happy to participate in this challenge but no expectation that i could outpace an equally geared monk.

[Bbeta]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

happy to participate in this challenge but no expectation that i could outpace an equally geared monk.

I don't think it's about the pace or approach rather its about the adventure and pushing the envelope for your characters.

For educational purposes, we can compare a velious monk vs kunark monk for the disco crawl.

I will be the first to admit I don't think a Kunark monk or EC monk can complete the crawl.

Monks are going to struggle with out bis. A pally or sk are a lot less dependent on gear. Imo