MUST READ: XP penalty facts and Ranger/SK hate

[Bardp1999]

Hybrid XP penalty's are rough and really do slow down an XP group. Your examples just highlight how fucked hybrids are (especially if many are in group). If you think its bad now, wait until 50-60 when the XP grind is at its realest. Good luck grouping on that Ranger or Bard! The tank hybrids have an advantage in that groups actually need tanks.

Rangers and Bards are especially fucked since they are basically 'optional' classes in every situation possible (IE they dont do anything very well another class cant do better)

On Blue before the penalties were removed there hybrid hate was at an all time high, when Kunark hits Green we will be having a renaissance of that era. Better make friends and enjoy duo/trios of under utilized camps.

[Bardp1999]

And if you are gong to make a rant at least get the math right. XP modifiers are multiplied, not added, so a Troll Shadowknight's modifier would be 1.4 x 1.2 = 1.68, a 68% penalty.

it becomes easy to see why no one wants to join a group consisting of

Troll SK
Dwarf Pally
Wood Elf Bard
Ogre Shaman
Human Ranger

[Tarsonis]

There are only 2 reasons to make and lvl a hybrid. Legacy item Guise and Jboots. Once you get those at lvl 35 you promptly drop your hybrid into long term stasis till veli comes out. You should have been making and lvling your hybrids at green server start date because the people playing cared a lot less about min/max and tanks were super rare since everyone went magi and got stuck on the whole research pet thing so they took any tank/melee they could into group.

I lvl'd a Paladin first, Ranger second, Ogre SK third, Ogre Warrior 4th, and my Rogue is my main now....all have Guise (except rogue) and Jboots (except ranger)…

One week till Legacy items are removed. Either use your home time wisely during this Covid19 mess by staying home and grinding it out to get your mask and boots or shelve your hybrids and play a non-penalized class to main till veli drops.

P.S - The lists are going to be so long this last week you might as well shelve the hybrid now.
Foolish fool

[Balimon]

Yes we all get how the penalties work, but what you don't get is that adding a hybrid that is at the group's level or higher significantly lowers everyone else's piece of the 'experience pie'. The only time you won't affect the group's experience is if you are lower than the average level of the group.

You picked hard mode dude. You picked a class that takes twice as long to level, has the potential to slow down the group, and solo's mediocre or poorly. You knew what you were getting into, you obviously know enough about exp to complain about it here.

Why are you mad at people ( who also understand how exp works ) who prefer not to exp at the same slower rate as you?

/boggle

[turbosilk]

OP create your own group problem solved.

[Kanuvan]

fact is your group is trash if it doesnt have a sk or pal in it so the h8 is only from stacking which doesnt make any sense to begin with, relying on pets to hold aggro is for people who like /ooc'ing for rezes every 5 minutes, having a good sk in your group is going to make the xp as smooth as butter

hybrids are gr8 but having more than 1 is just stupid, the hybrids of classic eq are tanks/pullers and nothing more and you only need 1 of those , monk to pull hybrid to tank

[BlackBellamy]

Sometimes I log my ogre sk on and be popping the guise back and forth so I could look at myself in my full suit of rubicite and I forget I'm not anon so I'll start to get these annoying tells from faraway places.

Hey man we need a tank.

Can you come to wherever?

Bitch please. You send a porter for ME. Also, what's your cleric's name cause I don't accept heals from scrubs.

Beating down these requests is a full-time job I tell you.

[f2pelerin1182]

I never even considered the Exp penalties when forming groups or finding replacements, it doesn't really bother me - I'd rather just have people to group with.

[ewjax]

I thought XP penalties only affected that player. Is it true that XP penalties affect the entire group's XP awarded for any kill?

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by ewjax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought XP penalties only affected that player. Is it true that XP penalties affect the entire group's XP awarded for any kill?

Exp is split among group members and whoever has the highest total exp from level one gets the biggest cut. So that can either be a hybrid or someone 2+ levels higher.