To the level 40 I ported last night with no tip..

[Fammaden]

Don't press the port button before receiving payment if this bothers you so much. Add this dude to ignore and move on, its going to be the exception not a common occurrence.

[Fammaden]

No they don't want bitching happening as the public face of their service. There's enough people who are irrationally resentful of DaP already, if every short tempered member in the guild was allowed to rage about getting stiffed on the forums they'd quickly have a terrible image. The majority aren't like this but they still get members like OP who goes off about getting stiffed, instead of shrugging it off professionally and keeping the reaction internal as per guild rules.

[Ataria]

There were a couple of times I forgot to tip on blue. I felt terrible after. Not saying that is what happened, as there are those out there to get what they can. So what I would do is note his name, see if he does it again. Or simply send him a tel and see what he says. He will either shrug it off or be very sorry.

On the other side on my porter on blue, this happened, but rarely. A handful of times they would send me a tel saying "Oh no i'm late for a raid totally forgot..!" And a couple did catch up with me later.

Hopefully this is what happened, as I'd like to think people would not want to have a mark on their reputation. It's a small server, and things do get around.

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No they don't want bitching happening as the public face of their service. There's enough people who are irrationally resentful of DaP already, if every short tempered member in the guild was allowed to rage about getting stiffed on the forums they'd quickly have a terrible image. The majority aren't like this but they still get members like OP who goes off about getting stiffed, instead of shrugging it off professionally and keeping the reaction internal as per guild rules.

Alternative perspective: If they didn't stifle the personal expression of their members, and more people realized that there are jerks out there who are stiffing them, maybe it would happen less often. You could argue that increased naming and shaming might root out some of these less desirable elements. Is there some unfounded belief that players would stop asking for ports because some DaP members are vocal about the assholes out there? Because that simply won't happen...ports are going to be in-demand regardless of guild tag for the entirety of this project.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alternative perspective: If they didn't stifle the personal expression of their members, and more people realized that there are jerks out there who are stiffing them, maybe it would happen less often. You could argue that increased naming and shaming might root out some of these less desirable elements. Is there some unfounded belief that players would stop asking for ports because some DaP members are vocal about the assholes out there? Because that simply won't happen...ports are going to be in-demand regardless of guild tag for the entirety of this project.

The success of DaP on blue is proof of concept enough, getting stiffed by a 40+ is effectively unheard of even without naming and shaming. It would only serve to make them look like assholes, "personal expression" give me a break they are containing people with hot tempers and low self control from making their guild rep bad.

[Meiva]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alternative perspective: If they didn't stifle the personal expression of their members, and more people realized that there are jerks out there who are stiffing them, maybe it would happen less often. You could argue that increased naming and shaming might root out some of these less desirable elements. Is there some unfounded belief that players would stop asking for ports because some DaP members are vocal about the assholes out there? Because that simply won't happen...ports are going to be in-demand regardless of guild tag for the entirety of this project.

So very nearly 100% of the player base will tip for a port. OP rant isn't appropriate outside of guild forums and discussion. He got stiffed. It's rare. It's okay. Maybe OP was super fucking late to picking up the guy. Maybe we all would have stiffed OP. Maybe the level 40 has fallen on hard times. Who cares. Suck it up and port one of the other three players in your port queue. DAP is kind of all about being reputable. It's a unique guild experience focused on helping others.

Did you know that DAP players level up a guild cleric for the purpose of also provide rez services? DAP players assist with item transfers, because we uphold a trustful reputation. We might help you with that quest. It's a very alternative playstyle. Its rewarding beyond platinum compensation, or lack there of.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alternative perspective: If they didn't stifle the personal expression of their members, and more people realized that there are jerks out there who are stiffing them, maybe it would happen less often. You could argue that increased naming and shaming might root out some of these less desirable elements. Is there some unfounded belief that players would stop asking for ports because some DaP members are vocal about the assholes out there? Because that simply won't happen...ports are going to be in-demand regardless of guild tag for the entirety of this project.

Dude what are you even talking about. Let it go

[El-Hefe]

What is with all this drama about ports.

Y’all need Jesus.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by El-Hefe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is with all this drama about ports.

Y’all need boats.

[stewe]

i never tip for ports, i just put all my gear in my bag and say CR, like porting is so time consuming, takes less then 5 minute to port and med back all the mana you used, oh the horror, should be grateful when anyone gives you more then a thank you, saying thanks is a must but i wont give a cp for a port and never have