Of Race and Religion

[Cen]

Originally Posted by Arkainium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How does following Prexus make paladin epic easier? Shield of Stalwart Seas does not have a deity requirement; all erudite paladins can equip it. AFAIK there are no Prexus-only items for erudite paladins.

Youre right. I fell into that common trap.. Like how all human clerics even good ones can get the paineel stuff.

Prexus paladins need to do less faction work for epic still right? If not then I guess it literally doesnt matter at all for their diety.

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like how all human clerics even good ones can get the paineel stuff.

pretty stupid that they made your deity choice irrelevant as long as you are in wolf form

[Mankong]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, let me also address your actual questions directly:

Erudite Paladin - Prexus has the best itemization and an easier epic. Quellious gets pretty much nothing. Prexus gets an awesome shield. Paladins can never be Agnostic.

Human Cleric of Innoruuk is actually one of P99's power combos. Later on in the timeline they get tons of clicky items that are powerful, including a snare necklace, a fear mask, and a helmet that grants deadeye. Bertox gets some of this but instead of snare neck its a disease cloud neck, which is a little crappier for a cleric.

Warriors of Rallos Zek, except for ogres and trolls, get a neat armor set. Also, anyone in the game who worships Rallos Zek starts dubious (non KOS) to velious giants. Minor bonus there. Every warrior in the game can worship Rallos Zek, except for Iksar who must always worship Cazic-Thule no matter what, and Dwarves, since RZ is considered their arch enemy.

That's pretty cool. Howsabout Dark Elf Warriors? Rallos Zek, Agnostic, or Innoruuk?

[Cen]

Originally Posted by Mankong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's pretty cool. Howsabout Dark Elf Warriors? Rallos Zek, Agnostic, or Innoruuk?

Not Innoruuk. Rallos or Agnostic is great. Inny doesn't give much to warriors and inny plate has INT on it for SK's. With DE's Rallos will make you juuuuust barely KOS in some places where you aren't as Agnostic, but the RZ plate is cool.

[uygi]

I think Cazic Thule is the best in terms of access to vendors, because it makes Iksar faction pretty fixable. People love to tout faction ups for Velious (RZ/Veeshan) but the reality is that Velious factions are fixable by design for any character without too much hardship. Cabilis factions were designed to be useful to Iksars only, and I'm not sure they are fixable without worshipping CT and being a class Iksars don't hate.

[TomisFeline]

Originally Posted by uygi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Cazic Thule is the best in terms of access to vendors, because it makes Iksar faction pretty fixable. People love to tout faction ups for Velious (RZ/Veeshan) but the reality is that Velious factions are fixable by design for any character without too much hardship. Cabilis factions were designed to be useful to Iksars only, and I'm not sure they are fixable without worshipping CT and being a class Iksars don't hate.

iirc I had an agnostic enchanter who was non-kos to cab (including without ikky illusion?). suppose it got that way from Seb or HS?

I am sure there are others who can chime in here - lotsa necros and enchanters should have a similar experience

[zodium]

halflings can be friends with anyone thanks to the magic of racial sneak turnins

[Expediency]

This server is overrun with erudites who foolishly picked quellious over Prexus. Do not add to this problem.

[Ahris]

Originally Posted by Mankong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hello. I’m kind of curious about religion, the matter of such being which race’s religion is best for them? Besides Agnosticism. For example, is Quellious better for an Erudite Paladin to worship than Prexus faction and item wise, or is it the other way around? Innoruuk or Bertoxxulous for a Human Cleric when it comes to evil worship? How about Rallos Zek for the odd warrior?

Well the relationships between the gods determine how NPC's will consider you by default based on which deity you choose. You can get the general idea if you read about them on the wiki. This is of course combined with your racial faction, which matters just as much; Even if you worship an evil god, trolls might want to eat you because of your race.

To answer one of your questions; Prexus is a neutral god and Quellious is a good aligned god allied with several other good gods which makes her an enemy of the evil gods. In the game followers of Prexus are tolerated almost everywhere, even Neriak while followers of Quellious will be killed on sight by all worshippers of the evil gods.
On the other hand followers on Quellious will have good faction in places where they worship other good gods while Prexus followers are just tolerated.

The difference between picking a neutral god and being agnistic is that followers of the nutral god will have better faction in places where that god is worshipped if there is one and they will eventually also have access to special imbued gear (Not anytime soon though). Besides Prexus, Solusek Ro, Brell and Veeshan are other neutral gods that will eventually provide a faction advantage in certain places even though that advantage isn't always useful.

[Cen]

I really don't think ive ever encountered a gnostic atheist, but I wish I have. That would be an interesting point of view.