No clarity for enchanters on green

[uygi]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think that's Clarity at all. Clarity is a level 29 spell not a 30+ spell. It also doesn't increase it by 50%. You're extrapolating random internet comments from 20 years ago. Unless it says something like "hey how excited are you guys that Clarity was added in this patch!?" then it's not proof of anything.

That user, like most people at the time, didn’t really understand the mechanics of the game. Clarity was mana magic that every caster wanted. They didn’t need to know the mana/tick, they just knew they wanted it.

You sound like you desperately want clarity and are looking for any possible evidence that could be construed that way. Take an objective approach and it’ll look different.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by uygi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That user, like most people at the time, didn’t really understand the mechanics of the game. Clarity was mana magic that every caster wanted. They didn’t need to know the mana/tick, they just knew they wanted it.

You sound like you desperately want clarity and are looking for any possible evidence that could be construed that way. Take an objective approach and it’ll look different.

Except I am taking an objective approach. If internet comments are what we are using as evidence, we have one internet comment from back in the day saying Clarity was in the game from day 1 at level 29, and then we have a vague internet comment talking about a potential level 30+ Enchanter spell to help with further mana regen (and also doesn't say that there isn't such a spell already in existence). Sounds like we should go with the one that expressly talks about Clarity, what level spell it is, and when it was in the game (if we're taking an objective approach).

The latter comment could easily be talking about another 30+ more powerful mana regen spell for Enchanters that they ended up not deciding to add and instead added in Kunark (C2); especially since C1 is not a level 30+ spell.

[Dolalin]

There are tons of missing patch messages. There could have been another patch in between those dates that we don't have. I added a bunch more today but they are hard to find.

The biggest problem is that www.eqvault.net / www.eqvault.com have incomplete archives. I think www.eqvault.com had a strict robots.txt for 9 months and excluded web archiving entirely. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[sciception]

What about Bards?
NM it is in

[Ferahgo]

We really need to get our hands on a time machine.

[Gustoo]

Here is the issue, "patch notes" as we know them really didn't get going until much later in the game. In another thread someone posted a huge summary of patch notes that an O.G. dev posted when describing how they were going to note with some detail the changes that were implemented with patches. Originally it was just like...the nature of norrath changed and its up to you to find out in all the magicalness of it.

[Dolalin]

I fully plan to dig more on this because I'm actually surprised Clarity is not mentioned in any of my mailing list archives until quite late.

That's any mention of Clarity at all. Not even of it being added, of it even existing. It's just weird.

Oh I forgot to mention #5: Brad's post about them adding Clarity and Insight.

cd288, can you give me an example of an Enchanter spell that should definitely be on the EQLizer list but isn't? I want to try something.

[bum3]

We know that clarity existed on Hate release with the rod. It would be safe to assume it existed as a spell prior?

[Dolalin]

PoH was released very late in 99.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The mana using song (And that's the one I refered to a while back) was planned on being an AOE Direct Damage song, doing 400 damage to up to four
targets.

They meant “the mana-using song” with a hyphen and they’re talking about Denon’s Desperate Dirge, a level 43 bard nuke that takes 800 mana.

Did you quote the wrong text? This isn’t about Clarity at all.