So how many of you will really go to green?

[Vx36]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A fresh economy sounds great, but when you're running around with a rusty tin pot on your head and a branch you found on the ground, with an ugly UI that doesn't tell you your pet health or exact mana or XP ... not to mention the fact that Green is going to just be a mess for the first couple months ... I really think a lot of the "I'm going Green" camp is going to come back to Blue.

Well this is what makes green sound so good. I wouldn't be playing Everquest if I wanted a server where everything was dirt cheap and made the game easier. Maybe I am a masochist but I usually mod games to make them harder so it will be great to play an mmo where other players have to suffer too. I'd make an Iksar SK on day one if I could just because it takes 2x as long to level and that's 2x as long I get to enjoy the journey.

[Zeboim]

What sucks imo is when you have the tin pot and the stick and the guy next to you has a Fungi and a T-Staff. If everyone is starting from scratch, it's about paring your expectations more than it is feeling you suck or are behind.

[soronil]

Originally Posted by Vx36 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd make an Iksar SK on day one if I could just because it takes 2x as long to level and that's 2x as long I get to enjoy the journey.

You can make a troll SK day 1. Same (168%) exp penalty. Same regeneration. Trolls can wear plate, but no AC boost, probably evens out pre velious. Trolls aren't as hated as iksar, but are pretty hated in most places. Also, arguably it will be easier to aquire good gear quicker on an Iksar vs a day 1 Troll due to the server having been dropped gear for a year.

tl;dr sounds like you need to be playing a troll SK!

[Vx36]

Originally Posted by soronil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can make a troll SK day 1. Same (168%) exp penalty. Same regeneration. Trolls can wear plate, but no AC boost, probably evens out pre velious. Trolls aren't as hated as iksar, but are pretty hated in most places. Also, arguably it will be easier to aquire good gear quicker on an Iksar vs a day 1 Troll due to the server having been dropped gear for a year.

tl;dr sounds like you need to be playing a troll SK!

If only Trolls weren't so ugly lol. Maybe I'll still give it a try.

[dwarf_cleric420]

Originally Posted by Vx36 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If only Trolls weren't so ugly lol. Maybe I'll still give it a try.

Just get a mask before they're gone

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Vx36 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well this is what makes green sound so good. I wouldn't be playing Everquest if I wanted a server where everything was dirt cheap and made the game easier. Maybe I am a masochist but I usually mod games to make them harder so it will be great to play an mmo where other players have to suffer too. I'd make an Iksar SK on day one if I could just because it takes 2x as long to level and that's 2x as long I get to enjoy the journey.

To be clear, I'm not saying the fresh economy (or even the lack of pet windows, custom UI, or other "objectively good" things) make Green worse than Blue. Many people will enjoy Green precisely for those things.

What I'm saying is, there's a venn diagram. There's a circle of people who think they'll like Green, and a circle who actually will. The two circles don't overlap fully: there's a decent chunk of the "think they'll like Green" group who won't actually like it.

One reason some won't like it because the game really is harder with a fresh economy: mobs will take longer to kill, groups will wipe more often, etc. Everyone talking in the forum can say how great all that is. but it's a whole other thing to actually play and sit through longer fights, go through more CRs, sit their for hours unable to get ports, etc. and still say "I <3 Green".

Again, some people absolutely will ... I just think a fair number of the "Green > Blue" crowd in the forum is going to change their mind when they get in the game.

[Throatseeker]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I strongly suspect most people will try Green. I also strongly suspect that many of the people who do think they're going to stick with Green, but won't, because they'll realize how much better of a game Blue is.

A fresh economy sounds great, but when you're running around with a rusty tin pot on your head and a branch you found on the ground, with an ugly UI that doesn't tell you your pet health or exact mana or XP ... not to mention the fact that Green is going to just be a mess for the first couple months ... I really think a lot of the "I'm going Green" camp is going to come back to Blue.

So to me the really interesting question isn't "how many are going to try Green?", it's how many are going to stick with it past the first couple months. I really think the "better game" is going to win over "more classic" game for a lot of people (and again, a lot of the people that think they want a more classic game).

You think you do but you don't....sounds familiar. :P

[Natewest1987]

Strictly from the perspective of someone who watches the forums but wouldn’t touch blue, period, I’m coming for green and only green.

[zodium]

imo the most delightful thing about p99 is that in pursuit of recreating a game that was abandoned in the first place because it was legitimately never viable for a host of reasons including but not limited to loramin's list, the developers created a wonderful game in its own right. often in spite of adamant insistence by those same developers that blue is not even a real game.

[Keza]

Quitting blue to play green is absolutely no different from quitting EQ (whatever year that was) and eventually playing blue. It's no different from quitting one game and playing another, and believe me I've played a ton of MMOs. Anyone saying otherwise is a pixel obsessed elflord. It might be annoying for people just starting blue, but if you read what the project was about it should have been obvious that green was coming soon. Your reward for restarting is getting to play a fresh server with no bullshit.

Giving up your twink gear and groups full of twinks isn't a sacrifice.

It's classic.