LEAVING RED BEHIND LIKE THAT

[DRAGONBAIT]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rise of Zek 2.0 launching late autumn. Gonna be yuge

No offense, i tried zek when it was some weeks in, enjoyed it, everquest is enjoyable if u can box also but it had several non classic tweaks, nothing against it. Its an awesome effort and my hopes are that somewhere in the future we (the eq classic pvp community) will have a pretty decent p99 quality level pvp server where we all can start fresh and do something good, better than what we did on this box.

Honestly cant stop thinking about it, in my spare time im not playing anything atm, thinking about green and gettin hyped on a fresh classic experience but as soon as i realize that i will be farming pixels for nothing its like...meh. Does blue have any kind of pvp action in the sort of tournaments or something like that? maybe that could do it for me

[Gustoo]

Yeah its hard to be motivated. The fresh green situation is super fun and classic era is the best, but I just can't help but not give a shit about gear at all on blue server because PVE is not hard and I don't need to brag about pixels.

Pixels are fun when they make your character able to play with different strategies and survive differently.

Or whatever. PVP just spices it up. Sux this server had such a rough life.

[Tassador]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah its hard to be motivated. The fresh green situation is super fun and classic era is the best, but I just can't help but not give a shit about gear at all on blue server because PVE is not hard and I don't need to brag about pixels.

Pixels are fun when they make your character able to play with different strategies and survive differently.

Or whatever. PVP just spices it up. Sux this server had such a rough life.

Pretty much. I mean imagine pve same ai in 2019. If you played EQ the only challenge is going to be the 600 people exping in guk that you cant fucking kill.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah its hard to be motivated. The fresh green situation is super fun and classic era is the best, but I just can't help but not give a shit about gear at all on blue server because PVE is not hard and I don't need to brag about pixels.

Pixels are fun when they make your character able to play with different strategies and survive differently.

Or whatever. PVP just spices it up. Sux this server had such a rough life.

A big mistake was leaving the keys to people like Sirken who did shockingly bad stuff like Nerf xp to the tune of "We gotta lose pop before we gain it". At least thats what it appeared like from the outside. Maybe he was just the spokesperson, not sure.

Another mistake was letting people grief the fuck out of casuals when server started out until server went from 600 to roughly 200 after a few months. People like me tried to scream for months to remove xp loss but what the fuck did we peasants know.

It made the worst people kings of the server by default because nobody wanted to even try to challenge them. By the time xp loss was cut, server was already railed for failure by lack of pop and gear gap.

[Palemoon]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A big mistake was leaving the keys to people like Sirken who did shockingly bad stuff like Nerf xp to the tune of "We gotta lose pop before we gain it". At least thats what it appeared like from the outside. Maybe he was just the spokesperson, not sure.

Another mistake was letting people grief the fuck out of casuals when server started out until server went from 600 to roughly 200 after a few months. People like me tried to scream for months to remove xp loss but what the fuck did we peasants know.

It made the worst people kings of the server by default because nobody wanted to even try to challenge them. By the time xp loss was cut, server was already railed for failure by lack of pop and gear gap.

No, you just wanted ez mode. You leveled up on that broken dwarf in butcher block (ive already forgotten what exactly was broken with him, maybe re-spawned too fast)

Its rich that someone that played a shaman, and abused a broken spawn, still thought the xp was too hard.

The insignificant xp loss on pvp death reduced mindless bind zerg rushing.

Some people just can't handle classic xp I guess.

[DRAGONBAIT]

Originally Posted by Palemoon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The insignificant xp loss on pvp death reduced mindless bind zerg rushing.

that + no LNS is a recipe for disaster my friend, naked bind rushing is annoying, corpse camping + exp death = griefed out.

u choose i see

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Palemoon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you just wanted ez mode. You leveled up on that broken dwarf in butcher block (ive already forgotten what exactly was broken with him, maybe re-spawned too fast)

Its rich that someone that played a shaman, and abused a broken spawn, still thought the xp was too hard.

The insignificant xp loss on pvp death reduced mindless bind zerg rushing.

Some people just can't handle classic xp I guess.

I was working at the same time, /shrug.

I could handle it, i leveled to 60. Through all the grief gank trains. Its all the casuals that quit before they could get a foot in and enjoy themselves.

The xp loss was massive, to the point where, like i said, nobody wanted to even try challenging Nihilum in Fear, not even one go. I wanted to do it at least a couple of times, for fun. I cant remember which crew i was with at the time but everyone was basically "why try, theres only xp loss in it for us". And i can understand why. I can remember one time me Andis and a couple of guys tried it.

It doesnt matter if thats how you maintain your fragile male ego that you think youre a real man for pvping through xp loss (im guessing you were on the easy train either on holo at the start or nihilum after, whichever side was dominating atm) the fact is thats how the server was depopulated and it never really recovered.

It was a totally different vibe from Rallos, which had constant pvp in the newb zones, newbs chasing twinks for a chance at a piece of gear and what made it fun.

[DRAGONBAIT]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was working at the same time, /shrug.

I could handle it, i leveled to 60. Through all the grief gank trains. Its all the casuals that quit before they could get a foot in and enjoy themselves.

The xp loss was massive, to the point where, like i said, nobody wanted to even try challenging Nihilum in Fear, not even one go. I wanted to do it at least a couple of times, for fun. I cant remember which crew i was with at the time but everyone was basically "why try, theres only xp loss in it for us". And i can understand why. I can remember one time me Andis and a couple of guys tried it.

It doesnt matter if thats how you maintain your fragile male ego that you think youre a real man for pvping through xp loss (im guessing you were on the easy train either on holo at the start or nihilum after, whichever side was dominating atm) the fact is thats how the server was depopulated and it never really recovered.

It was a totally different vibe from Rallos, which had constant pvp in the newb zones, newbs chasing twinks for a chance at a piece of gear and what made it fun.

+1. completely agree with this dude. Eq pvp is a tool, in a heavy itemized game pvp is a tool to fight over long ass camps, good exp spots, plat farming spots etc. if u cant compete somewhere u got tons of content to keep grinding and compete in the future. PvP in eq is not meant to compete arena wise etc. Death in eq already means something, so being able to kill other PCs is enough for what i mentioned before, thou item loot and exp loss just adds as griefing tools.

U a pvper or a griefer? we all know theres both choices

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[Eggbell]

The main reason I prefer red is none of the absurd camping.

There really should be an alternative rule-set. Like trading kills on a camped mob. But hogging a mob all to oneself for long periods of time is ridiculous.

PvP shenanigans are great as well and I'm actually fine with no item loss, just gold.