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Old 06-14-2019, 07:25 PM
Dwarflord Dwarflord is offline
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duno my money goes up by 20-30% every year and i seem to make more each and every month that goes by

maybe im doing it wrong
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Old 06-14-2019, 07:50 PM
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duno my money goes up by 20-30% every year and i seem to make more each and every month that goes by

maybe im doing it wrong
Yeah, you're supposed to lose a bunch and then every news article you read should cause you to say "this is good for Bitcoin"
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:11 PM
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In all seriousness, my history is a textbook example of how not to invest.

I started in late November 2017, after a relative talked me into investing. He's also a diehard zealot when it comes to crypto.

To be fair, he was talking to me for years about getting in, and if I did sooner, I'd probably be a multimillionaire now. (seriously)

He also didn't hold my hand, so I made MANY costly mistakes.

My investment blew up like 3 days after I bought in. Made about $7,000 in a few days. I was excited. I didn't know that you're not supposed to buy when it goes parabolic, at least not when it has been up for awhile.

I bought a lot of stuff at ATH prices.

I think I have a Litecoin that I bought for $375.

I also bought a bunch of alt coins. Big gamble.

I just found out one was a scam the other day. Exchanges pulled it off - can't liquidate them. That's about $1600 down the drain.

My portfolio stayed around -90% for the entirety of 2018.

Things started improving in the last few months and now my portfolio is around -60%.

I haven't panic sold. I'm just waiting it out. Hopefully I'll break even. My Litecoin might be my saving grace since the "Halvining" is taking place in less than 2 months.

I probably will cash out when and if I break even.

Then I'll either buy a house or invest in something other than Crypto. It's too volatile for me.
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Old 06-16-2019, 12:27 PM
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In all seriousness, my history is a textbook example of how not to invest.

I started in late November 2017, after a relative talked me into investing. He's also a diehard zealot when it comes to crypto.

To be fair, he was talking to me for years about getting in, and if I did sooner, I'd probably be a multimillionaire now. (seriously)

He also didn't hold my hand, so I made MANY costly mistakes.

My investment blew up like 3 days after I bought in. Made about $7,000 in a few days. I was excited. I didn't know that you're not supposed to buy when it goes parabolic, at least not when it has been up for awhile.

I bought a lot of stuff at ATH prices.

I think I have a Litecoin that I bought for $375.

I also bought a bunch of alt coins. Big gamble.

I just found out one was a scam the other day. Exchanges pulled it off - can't liquidate them. That's about $1600 down the drain.

My portfolio stayed around -90% for the entirety of 2018.

Things started improving in the last few months and now my portfolio is around -60%.

I haven't panic sold. I'm just waiting it out. Hopefully I'll break even. My Litecoin might be my saving grace since the "Halvining" is taking place in less than 2 months.

I probably will cash out when and if I break even.

Then I'll either buy a house or invest in something other than Crypto. It's too volatile for me.
You'll break even over next year or two. Like you said halvings are coming, easy price boost. The volatility can be rough no doubt, but aside from govt intervention/regulation somehow shattering the market, coins are easy money and will continue to be so for years. Maybe don't cash out 100%, leave a little bit of BTC if you wanna make money with zero effort over next few years.

Park a little in BTC it will pay off. Not 1million% anymore but you'll make easy money. Buy alt coins if you wanna gamble, but you seem to have figured out alt coins the hard way =(
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Old 06-15-2019, 03:33 PM
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Failure is the best teacher - master yoda

Don't beat yourself up about losing money, its not possible to invest in anything or launch any projects or business's without the risk of losing money.

It hurts, and at some point in everyone's life they will lose money.

But the thing is, when you lose YOUR OWN money, you are going to learn really quick.

When i started my first business i remember walking into the bank trying to get a 5k loan, they basically told me without a plan to pay it back it probably would never happen as suntrust is bad with small business.

Everytime i go there they offer me a 50k loan now but i dont need it, i am liquid.

You seem to be pretty smart dino, start a business ASAP
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Old 06-16-2019, 01:13 PM
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halflings are coming?

also all crypto crashes the day libra is released sell now
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Old 06-16-2019, 01:33 PM
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halflings are coming?

also all crypto crashes the day libra is released sell now
Yes they're coming, prepare second breakfast for their arrival.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:43 PM
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Everyone gets taxes with the exception of those that can right off everything they make as some kind of business expense. Even most people capable of this end up paying more tax then they would like so they can show income for various reasons (credit).

Payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, taxes on income and gifts. Two things are certain: death and taxes.

Even gangsters pay taxes to avoid scrutiny.

Crypto is only useful for tax evasion if you made a lot of money by investing when it was low. You could essentially avoid selling or cash out off shore and never get the tax hammer from all your capital gains. Which is capped at 15% anyway last I checked. You could also work for cryto and hide income to some degree...but the minute you start getting USD in your account there is a paper trail.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:27 PM
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Everyone gets taxes with the exception of those that can right off everything they make as some kind of business expense. Even most people capable of this end up paying more tax then they would like so they can show income for various reasons (credit).

Payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, taxes on income and gifts. Two things are certain: death and taxes.

Even gangsters pay taxes to avoid scrutiny.

Crypto is only useful for tax evasion if you made a lot of money by investing when it was low. You could essentially avoid selling or cash out off shore and never get the tax hammer from all your capital gains. Which is capped at 15% anyway last I checked. You could also work for cryto and hide income to some degree...but the minute you start getting USD in your account there is a paper trail.
There are ways to get cash from crypto, indirectly, without a paper trail.

Anyhow. The point still stands, the establishment intends to heavily regulate and centralize themselves with Libra; thus it will not suit the purposes of people looking to invest in it for growth opportunities since it will not see exponential growth over time. They're essentially looking to directly tie it to the dollar, like Tether, so aside from using it like a widely accepted gift certificate, and trusting that Facebook isn't going to Ponzi it, it doesn't have the potential to compete with decentralized crytpocurrencies.
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Old 06-20-2019, 05:50 PM
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boy howdy facebook sure does love helping russia; they use every digital currency extant to launder money(yes Krono)
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