Question regarding Frontal Stun Immunity

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually trolls and iksars have a net experience bonus relative to all the other shaman races due to how much of your time you will spend from 50-60 + cannabalize. Having things like a regen BP and chanter/bard grouping with you can screw with a the relative math a bit but it's still always faster than any of the other races.

Someone crunched the numbers ages ago and it convinced me pretty solidly that Barbarians are faster (but again, as a trade-off they spend a higher percentage of time meditating).

Ultimately unless someone levels two shaman, one Barbarian and one Ogre, the exact same way, and records the amount of time spent on each, there's really no way to truly be certain though.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone crunched the numbers ages ago and it convinced me pretty solidly that Barbarians are faster (but again, as a trade-off they spend a higher percentage of time meditating).

Ultimately unless someone levels two shaman, one Barbarian and one Ogre, the exact same way, and records the amount of time spent on each, there's really no way to truly be certain though.

If you average the time between 50-60 the troll/ikky will be gaining about 5 more mana per tick in that time period. The average meditation tick in that range will be about 20, meaning they level 25% faster. That's a net 5% bonus for them.

1-50 is a lot harder to quickly estimate. You will probably average about 2 mana more per tick as a troll/ikky and average meditation tick will be around 13. That leaves trolls/iksar with about a 5% penalty. But since you will spend 2 to 3 times longer 50-60, the troll/ikky will still be well ahead of their racial exp penalty.

of coruse this doesn't touch the whole regen spell line, which will shrink the difference a bit, but the ikky/trol will still end up a bit ahead.

[Jibartik]

Id argue that barbarians are faster because levels 1-24 are easier for light races than level 1-24 for dark races, and you're a trashcan until your level 24 as a shaman.

But if we're talking p99 then both are the same because you should just pay a bard to kite you to 60 if you're worried about speed.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id argue that barbarians are faster because levels 1-24 are easier for light races than level 1-24 for dark races, and you're a trashcan until your level 24 as a shaman.

But if we're talking p99 then both are the same because you should just pay a bard to kite you to 60 if you're worried about speed.

Guk and kurn's beg to differ.

[Jibartik]

hmmm guk is no contest joke compared to gnoll fangs but I have never leveled in luclin before so idk (that's right i just called kunark luclin)

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hmmm guk is no contest joke compared to gnoll fangs but I have never leveled in luclin before so idk (that's right i just called kunark luclin)

BB sucks Train central and packs of aggro all over the place. Pretty much have to have a decent group, and then there going a bunch of potential fangs. Oh, and the ZEM is shit. A duo/trio in kurns/guk will do way better.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BB sucks Train central and packs of aggro all over the place. Pretty much have to have a decent group, and then there going a bunch of potential fangs. Oh, and the ZEM is shit. A duo/trio in kurns/guk will do way better.

train central lmao "lets go to upper guk" you're out of your element donny. I appreciate your love of guk, it is a wonderful zone, but you dont know how to level as a good race if you think its slower than grinding in a group in guk lol

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

train central lmao "lets go to upper guk" you're out of your element donny. I appreciate your love of guk, it is a wonderful zone, but you dont know how to level as a good race if you think its slower than grinding in a group in guk lol

You don't have to worry about trains in upper guk unless you are humping a zone exit or the main path to lower guk. So don't pull/fight in those areas. Really complicated stuff..

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't have to worry about trains in upper guk unless you are humping a zone exit or the main path to lower guk. So don't pull/fight in those areas. Really complicated stuff..

well we'll see which one of us is right come october [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[garfo]

57 Ogre shammy here, can confirm that FSI is as amazing as everyone says it is -- to the point where I actively dislike using bear illusion because playing without FSI feels like i'm gimped.