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Old 04-20-2019, 09:06 PM
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Mana/Wisdom tho never helps regen speed and there are no “heals” for your mana bar. That means having more mana only helps if fully medded before battle. Great for red but not so much on blue. Unless Stam is capped which is harder for most than one might expect (non raiders, etc).
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Old 04-21-2019, 03:14 AM
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Salahdin

My Paladin on blue....what do you notice? Only a few raid items, but stacked to 190 wisdom.

- Has more mana than HP.

- Has a bigger manapool than some full raid geared level 60 Paladins.

- Will have 200 wisdom with more raid gears

- Will have an even larger mana pool.

- Will have more functionality than a raid geared paladin with 130 wisdom.

Here is a wisdom build with items that are attainable without hardcore raiding (Also my wishlist) :
https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Salahdin_(WL)

1 stm buff from a shaman and this build hits 200+ stm 1 str buff from a shaman = 200+

I think you get the jist as why wisdom is the only stat to put points in too
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Old 04-21-2019, 05:28 AM
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My Paladin on blue....what do you notice?
First? That you have gauntlets equipped around your arms which seems unwise, not to mention painful. Also, your face slot item has no AC and you're sacrificing AC elsewhere for stat increases. Not prioritizing AC will translate into more bodily harm, eating into your healthbar and then drinking up your manapool, assuming you haven't died as a result.

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Here is a wisdom build with items that are attainable without hardcore raiding (Also my wishlist) :
https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Salahdin_(WL)
But Fiery Defender offers more wisdom/mana than Natures Defender? Regardless, that build is well-balanced and not much of a departure from what most raiding Paladins wear. Honestly, I was half-expecting to see the following items on your wish list...

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1 stm buff from a shaman and this build hits 200+ stm 1 str buff from a shaman = 200+
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I think you get the jist as why wisdom is the only stat to put points in too
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Old 04-21-2019, 06:02 AM
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First? That you have gauntlets equipped around your arms which seems unwise, not to mention painful. Also, your face slot item has no AC and you're sacrificing AC elsewhere for stat increases. Not prioritizing AC will translate into more bodily harm, eating into your healthbar and then drinking up your manapool, assuming you haven't died as a result.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Mask_of_War
https://wiki.project1999.com/Ivandyr%27s_Hoop
https://wiki.project1999.com/Heavy_Dragonwing_Mantle



But Fiery Defender offers more wisdom/mana than Natures Defender? Regardless, that build is well-balanced and not much of a departure from what most raiding Paladins wear. Honestly, I was half-expecting to see the following items on your wish list...

https://wiki.project1999.com/Elder%27s_Earring
https://wiki.project1999.com/Matchle...onhorn_Bracers
https://wiki.project1999.com/Polished_Mithril_Torque
https://wiki.project1999.com/Emerald_Dragonscale_Tunic
https://wiki.project1999.com/Boots_of_Distraction



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It's gist! The g is soft.
AC is broken on this server, I had 1400 AC on my Red Paladin when stacked for it and it didn't translate to much difference than @ 1200. The one stat he was SO thirsty for in all aspects of the game was more mana, always more mana.

What does a Paladin need all that AC for anyhow? they aren't tanking Velious raid mobs, and you can tank Kunark raid mobs with 1k ac.

Also thanks for the tip on the arms slot, and spelling.

The ideology that Paladin's and Shadowknight's are tanks beyond Kunark era raid mobs, and group tier mobs in Velious is what causes people to make a SK/PAL and stack STM.

Warrior's simply do tanking of raid mobs better, with the exception of a few raid target (VS/VP Targets). If you're stacking your Paladin/Shadowknight to the Warrior aspect of the hybrid then you're weakening them as classes because the returns you get beyond a certain point don't entitle the classes to achieve anything that non-stacked for tanking hybrid with similar gear can't do.
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:39 AM
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Personally I roll around with as much ac and hps as possible. I can’t recall a situation where I ran out of mana and died. I can recall a ton of situations where a few more hps would have let me live. I don’t always have stamina buffs on in grind groups; I never do when by my lonesome.

Celestial Cleansing is very mana efficient. Still having a couple extra isn’t going to help you at all in group, rarely help solo, and marginally will help with raiding. If you can convince a group to let you AFK and top off between kills you are a better salesperson than me. Even if AC is borked it’s doing something more than sitting there. Then again, I won’t even stack wis on my shaman so maybe I’m not the best one to sell a wis build to.

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My Paladin on blue....what do you notice?
Low ac. Wisdom is great an, imo, more important than most stats for a paladin, but you’ve made some very odd gear choices in places.

We’re tanks first and ac is fairly critical to what we do.
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Low ac. Wisdom is great an, imo, more important than most stats for a paladin, but you’ve made some very odd gear choices in places.

We’re tanks first and ac is fairly critical to what we do.
Thats my current gear because I dont have a bazillion plat: I tank better and play a Paladin better with more functionally than NToV twink Pallies. Choices are made depending on budget. I have 7k plat in the bank. Some of us dont play EQ 10 hrs a day 7 days a week.
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Salahdin

My Paladin on blue....what do you notice? Only a few raid items, but stacked to 190 wisdom.

- Has more mana than HP.

- Has a bigger manapool than some full raid geared level 60 Paladins.

- Will have 200 wisdom with more raid gears

- Will have an even larger mana pool.

- Will have more functionality than a raid geared paladin with 130 wisdom.

Here is a wisdom build with items that are attainable without hardcore raiding (Also my wishlist) :
https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Salahdin_(WL)

1 stm buff from a shaman and this build hits 200+ stm 1 str buff from a shaman = 200+

I think you get the jist as why wisdom is the only stat to put points in too

Having watched your videos as you solo stuff you hardly use any of your mana. You always root back up and spam Deepwater helm for heals. Or if you pull to much you root everything and camp out. I dont see the point of having more mana if your not using any of it. Yaulp cost next to nothing, you can use the lowest lvl root(30mana) Stuns? Sure but with Force being slow you'll just be using Stun(35mana) and Holy Might(60mana) the most. This is from a solo perspective.
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Old 06-09-2019, 06:34 AM
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Having watched your videos as you solo stuff you hardly use any of your mana. You always root back up and spam Deepwater helm for heals. Or if you pull to much you root everything and camp out. I dont see the point of having more mana if your not using any of it. Yaulp cost next to nothing, you can use the lowest lvl root(30mana) Stuns? Sure but with Force being slow you'll just be using Stun(35mana) and Holy Might(60mana) the most. This is from a solo perspective.
Forgot about this old thread till now.

Larger mana pool, coupled with DW helm = more fights before medding. Also you will find when you solo hard mobs i.e AM in lguk your mana pool will get very low.

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Old 04-21-2019, 04:19 PM
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Having a large mana pool only really helps you when you are close to the bottom of your pool (squeeze out one more spell) or top of the pool (more space to keep regenerating mana for later use).

If you tend to use mana at the rate you recover it, and neither go oom nor sit at full mana then the size of your pool is largely relevant.

Your worn AC is relevant almost every time you take a hit. Your hp pool is relevant each time you are hit by cheal, and often relevant when under a heal over time.
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