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Old 07-25-2018, 02:11 PM
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really not upset friend. i feel for you and hope you don't kill yourself or damage others. humans are male or female. then, there are the mentally ill. i can understand people who transition from one gender to another but won't, druing my lifetime, give space to those who believe there is something beyond biological structure! ty!
You do realize they've brainscanned trans and find female structures in them and vice versa?

Biological structure isn't 100% dicktated by chromosomes only. Hope this helps.

Also, chromosomes do not equal genetic expression. They can often be a good predictor sometimes, but not 100% of the time accurate or down to the fine details and happenings. There's no master on off switch, and if there is, we can flip it baby. Check out androgen insensitivity.

Or all the other things.

Yeah, there is pretty much "male and female" you're MOSTLY sort of right in that regard, and yeah, there are a lot of male to me, but it's not 100% absolute bruh. Hence, you are not absolutely right or even right at all to simplify it to that level in regards to medicine or science. I'd regard your absolutism is tyrannical and also wrong socially. Not just scientifically.

People with PHds and intelligence who aren't quacks and dumb dumbs side with me on this 1.

People who are dumb dumbs and mad about gender and trannies get payed 2 be mad about it and misinform the public with oversimplifications and twistings of reality.

That being, that you can't determine male and female 100% accurately on looks and what not alone, and u can't force gender on people.

My gender expression is innate as well as somewhat nature + nurture, and not a mental illness that requires some gymnastics 2 go thru, it just is what it is, sorry *aktually if that doesn't fit your expectation of reality and your kindergarten understanding of chromosomes.

Factory defaults overrated. Especially when operating in environments out of bounds of originally intended design. I am super-human. Not sub-human.

*aktually: sorry but not sorry

The logical fallacy you subscribe to is that because I'm male my default mode should be manly masculine man. That is a flawed and ignorant short sighted perception of the issue. If that was the case, I would be 100% succesful and masculine. I did serve in the Army dudebro and have boysex with women. Probably something super manly, but did that work out so well? Gender as a performance for the sake of chromosomal assignment is still retarded. It's mentally ill. Just as much as you accuse me acting normally and correcting my biology of being mentally ill. Perspective.

For me, it's best if I continue to acknowledge that being a man is dumb and bad and in poor taste when my body is happier this way.

Hindsight 20/20 and all that you can listen to an expert telling you to dig deeper and listen there is MORE going on here, or listen to a moron politician or fundamentalist extremist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You chose. Freedumb pally.
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really not upset friend. i feel for you and hope you don't kill yourself or damage others. humans are male or female. then, there are the mentally ill. i can understand people who transition from one gender to another but won't, druing my lifetime, give space to those who believe there is something beyond biological structure! ty!
My first and last trip to a trans support group at my college almost got me lynched when I mansplained why the gender binary was a good thing to the half dozen FTM or genderqueer girls there.
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:27 PM
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Cecily is also an expert. Plz listen to her, she's better at communicating.
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:34 PM
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I'm experimenting with limiting my openindededness. You have to respect this just as I have to respect gender binary transgender people (but believe non binary gender assignment is mental illness.) Thanks!

Ps- the structure of brain for a mentally ill person is also different
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I'm experimenting with limiting my openindededness. You have to respect this just as I have to respect gender binary transgender people. Thanks!
I hope that works out for you, good luck!
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:45 PM
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I'm experimenting with limiting my openindededness. You have to respect this just as I have to respect gender binary transgender people (but believe non binary gender assignment is mental illness.) Thanks!

Ps- the structure of brain for a mentally ill person is also different
Yeah, I actually share that opinion. However, you should consider (or don't) the concept of liminality:

"In anthropology, liminality (from the Latin word līmen, meaning "a threshold") is the quality of ambiguity or disorientation that occurs in the middle stage of rites, when participants no longer hold their preritual status but have not yet begun the transition to the status they will hold when the rite is complete."

Non-binary gender identification is quick way to consolidate your ego when you're literally in the middle. I don't like it, but it may serve as an apt description seeing as I'm going to be in the depths of liminal weirdness pretty soon myself. As much as I'd like to, I can't get to point B from A immediately.
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:46 PM
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My first and last trip to a trans support group at my college almost got me lynched when I mansplained why the gender binary was a good thing to the half dozen FTM or genderqueer girls there.
You know, I had similar vibes going to support. Like I was the only real MTF there or something.....idk how to put it. Or at least the only centrist
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:49 PM
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I'm experimenting with limiting my openindededness. You have to respect this just as I have to respect gender binary transgender people. Thanks!
I hope that works out for you, good luck!

I would go so far as to say that binary mode works for you, it's totally normal. It's not important to overthink it. You may only run into rough edges around a few "way out there folks" Best not to be entirely upset when these issues and disagreements happens. Likely, most of the time you will never know, and would not ever know unless people make an issue out of it. It takes two people to have a fight, so please don't lay it all on trans-stuff. I am sick and tired of being the target and blamed for all the problems people can't cope with on their own and being used as a political tool. I hope you can appreciate that, but if you don't care, and won't, I have nothing more to really add.

TLDR: I'd personally prefer it if this all just went back down under the radar to personal levels of involvement among enlightened beings in the big scheme of things, and stopped being about cultural warfare and being the purview of politics and scare mongering. On BOTH sides.

The above peoples experiences is similar to my own. There are a lot of extremos out there. They just do what they do. TLDR: Stereotypes are bad.
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Old 07-25-2018, 03:58 PM
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Let's discuss this. Why am I crazy? Why should I be locked up? What methods of rehabilitation would you suggest?
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